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    Gay adoption is good for children

    I'm sorry to say that I haven't kept up with this thread through it's 39 pages (just found it minutes ago !), but I thought I'd add to the recentest of the discussion. (Post 319 is considered here along with everything else I'll type.) If a child "deserves" one father and one mother, then...
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    40% of voters don't want a religious president

    I don't know if it has happened (yet), but here'd be one: If a bill about national civil unions (aren't we called the ""United"" States for some reason ?) – or hell, orientation on the hate crimes list – gets to the president and he vetoes it, he has imposed his religious beliefs on...
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    666- The secret

    One can shape their reality, and that makes it real to one, but that does not mean one's reality is real. To shape your perception of the world off your own emotions is misleading. Just because the idea of All Great God might comfort you does not guarantee it exists. Wikipedia is not the...
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    666- The secret

    Ah, but you cannot fool me ! Anyway, you meant "yet tomorrow always comes", no ? Or did you mean that the "lasttomorrow never comes" ? ;)
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    Come and share you God-Concepts here:)

    I'm atheist, but have a god concept also. Basically, this god wouldn't leave everyone off to themselves to get through life, "spiritually" at least. As (near) 16 years old, I'm much more mature than my peers. I've cried over things they are completely blind to. I feel I've contemplated things...
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    Support your beliefs. With a twist.

    So it seems legal and standardised and performed by people who know what they're doing abortion is a much more livelier alternative to illegalising it, because people will only try to do it in some "doctor's" apartment and end up dying. And if we have a good sex education early on, 'safer sex'...
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    666- The secret

    Ok, I was wondering if it was cycle that you meant. And like one's said, I'm sure mathematics took a part in life back then too. What if a mathematician was just understanding some new concept, and being the usual back then, he took it as one more understanding of God's magical world ? It...
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    666- The secret

    Wait. Back up a second. What does the sun orbit again ? People go crazy finding the "miraculous!" 11s in putting together September 11th digits. But they never use one system (addition, multiplication...), nor do they take all numbers into account. Only the ones that work. 32 = 3-2 = 1...
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    Support your beliefs. With a twist.

    Of course. :) I was going to, but I think one of my reasons for not bothering with it was that some religious people do see it as true (like, from what I know, the Vatican/Catholicism has supported it for 50 years ?....), and even if religious people don't see how it has reality and decide to...
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    Support your beliefs. With a twist.

    Yes, they've the right to follow it (whether there's law saying that have the right to or not) no matter what it is, it simply bothers me if the belief seems totally out of this world and illogical. But, those types of beliefs will always exist and I can't change them. As long as harm is not a...
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    Support your beliefs. With a twist.

    @Willamena: Aha, very clever of you. ;) Well, if one can't relate to an atheist's outlook, then one can simply see if one's beliefs support themselves without one's religion. If one isn't religious, then they've probably understood that. While gay marriage and abortion wouldn't exist without...
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    Support your beliefs. With a twist.

    I know I do, and I'm not always right. If I'm wrong, simply correct me, because, well. . .I'm not right, and I can't be right even if I don't know I'm wrong. I've no problem with being told wrong when I am. . . . . .because I'm not right. :) I know you didn't mention pædophilia in anyway. I was...
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    Support your beliefs. With a twist.

    Well, this thread is about whether beliefs in general have any real sense, but of course we can only really talk about the beliefs correctly when people participate in this thread and have those beliefs, or the contrary to those beliefs. That doesn't exclude others' beliefs, we simply can't talk...
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    Support your beliefs. With a twist.

    Could that ever happen ? Since homosexuality is not like a group whose beliefs are to do something, like, harm everyone because it's their beliefs, I don't think there could ever be a real reason that makes homosexuality worse than heterosexuality. Orientation is a part of a human, and there...
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    Support your beliefs. With a twist.

    Besides the fact that history does show that illegalising things does not stop things, why would you (if you would) be ok with making it illegal in the first place, if doing so did make the events stop ? What would you base your decision on, that it's ok to tell them not to because you couldn't...
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    Support your beliefs. With a twist.

    So if I understand you correctly, you don't see marriage as "holy", simply a social recognition of a family ? IE, you think two people who don't plan to raise children don't need to be married ? Correct me if I'm wrong ; but if I did understand correctly, I think I agree... But if two women...
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    Support your beliefs. With a twist.

    What you feel really can't be questioned. But what has led up to those feelings can... If you don't want to debate abortion, you won't, but it's simply, are there things in the world around you that tell/signify to you that it's wrong for anyone to do it ? This thread's point is about...
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    Support your beliefs. With a twist.

    I've had this idea for a thread for a while now, and finally I type it ! The point is to support your beliefs, but you cannot use any "holy texts" of any sort. You cannot use anything that does not exist without our minds. You have to base every claim on the natural universe, and mere human...
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    Do you hate God?

    (Glad I caught my username being quoted ; I haven't been on here in a long time...) Personally, I don't think I've met one moderate religious person who *supports* homosexuals or any branch of the topic in real life, but no, that doesn't mean that's every religious person. I know one or two...
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    40% of voters don't want a religious president

    Very much so. It's between saddening. . .and maddening.
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