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  1. AshT

    What idea in it makes you not think of evolution as true? And poll

    Aren't you tired of this? I'm not defending a premise that isn't mine and you keep turning the topic towards my religious world view. I can't believe I've wasted this much time on this. But you achieved your goal. You, like so many others do, have made this thread useless and pointless...
  2. AshT

    What idea in it makes you not think of evolution as true? And poll

    We are now repeating the conversation because I turned it around and pointed out how easy it was to say the same thing about you.
  3. AshT

    What idea in it makes you not think of evolution as true? And poll

    That's not true because I didn't bring theology into the conversation, you did. You attacked my ideas based on your false assumption about my world view. I explained why my religious beliefs were irrelevant to the conversation. Why should I even have to defend a premise that was not my own?
  4. AshT

    What idea in it makes you not think of evolution as true? And poll

    Yah, you are right, I agree with that. Thanks for your comments.
  5. AshT

    What idea in it makes you not think of evolution as true? And poll

    I addressed your comments. You didn't produce an argument. You tried to restrict the conversation to arbitrary limitations of your own making. Not having an arguement you resorted to insults using false associations related to your baseless assumptions of my religious world view. Having no more...
  6. AshT

    What idea in it makes you not think of evolution as true? And poll

    I changed my wording but you drew a lot of conclusions about me based on your bias, and not really knowing about who I am or what I believe.
  7. AshT

    What idea in it makes you not think of evolution as true? And poll

    Where your logic fails is you hear intelligence and automatically assume we are talking about a statue or other inanimate object that primitive cultures have been known to kneel in front of and pray for rain. Obviously such things have no intelligence and aren't worth considering. Honestly it's...
  8. AshT

    What idea in it makes you not think of evolution as true? And poll

    Sorry but that's nonsense. Maybe I should accuse you of not considering intelligence because your atheism is more important to you than considering any idea that would threaten that atheism. If you read my posts you would see that I have been considerate and open to the opinions and ideas of...
  9. AshT

    What idea in it makes you not think of evolution as true? And poll

    Engineering requires an engineer. It is as viable an answer as any. To eliminate intelligence you may well be arbitrarily removing the correct answer. I provided 3 choices in spite of my personal belief in only one of the three. There may be more that I haven't thought of but wouldn't refuse...
  10. AshT

    The Chosen

    Oh yah, I've seen it all of the shows so far. Love the series.
  11. AshT

    What idea in it makes you not think of evolution as true? And poll

    Did you look at the post I was referring too? It was a far cry from an opinion. Edit: in hindsight, I shouldn't have bothered. Somebody was posting noise, over and over, and I was calling it out. Perhaps in a more colorful way than I should have but it was late, what can I say, turns out I'm...
  12. AshT

    What idea in it makes you not think of evolution as true? And poll

    As you noted it was a caricature. A intentional simplification and illustration. And I am not that knowledgeable about Biology as I eluded to earlier. But it wasn't a throw away comment. You would not need a single throw of the dice. You would need hundreds, maybe thousands of throws of the dice...
  13. AshT

    What idea in it makes you not think of evolution as true? And poll

    I've recently tried a number of religion based forums seeking intelligent conversation around life's impossible questions. And in every one of them there have been trolls attempting to clutter up and pollute the threads with pointless, meaningless garbage in an apparent attempt to frustrate...
  14. AshT

    What idea in it makes you not think of evolution as true? And poll

    Sure they do. Given enough time, sea currents and electricity eventually elements will form a Golgi Aparatus which will start packaging proteins. Highly improbable is a polite way of saying the odds are beyond impossible even over extreme time periods. Most people fall into one of three camps...
  15. AshT

    What idea in it makes you not think of evolution as true? And poll

    I think we are talking about different things. I would not suggest changing the scientific method. The question was about belief. So I presented a nuanced answer that I have no issue with evolution with the exception of origins and provided my rational as to why. I'm my humble opinion, when...
  16. AshT

    The Chosen

    Thank Tony, I find The Chosen to be far from perfect but it has its brilliant moments that really resonated with me. And like I said, the video was great, the other stuff around it seemed way off to me. And thank you for the Christmas wishes. I like your sentiment, "May your Christmas be...
  17. AshT

    What idea in it makes you not think of evolution as true? And poll

    I hope I sound more intelligent than a "tornado in a junkyard" type. I don't have any issue with Evolution. My issue is with origins. Not too disregard your opinion. You sound intelligent and I respect your opinion. The best we can do, at this point, with a lack of hard data is make creative...
  18. AshT

    The Chosen

    Thanks!
  19. AshT

    The Chosen

    Hi all, I am new to the forum. Not certain this is the right place for this topic or for the kind of Christian centered interaction I was looking for. But I will start a post and see where things go. I just saw the Chosen Christmas special at the local theater. Because I love the show and...
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  20. AshT

    What idea in it makes you not think of evolution as true? And poll

    Exactly, it's not random. It can't be. The complex structures that exist, all of which have to exist together in order to function, present in living cells, takes randomness out of the equation. Biochemistry is a science, conducted by humans, but doesn't explain the phenomenon. It can explain...
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