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  1. Oberon12

    Jesus as Christ

    To paraphrase Carl Sagan, there is a difference between having an open mind and a huge gaping hole in your head. And, even in the bible, not all prophecies came true.
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    Question for Christians: Salvation for uncontacted tribes?

    Correct, it was an actual physical location. They burned trash and waste there, so its possible allegorical references are left for believers to decide for themselves.
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    They are both the same person!

    So I wonder why there are no blue people in India any more. What's the contrived handwave for that? Clearly there were a lot of blue people, because there are paintings and stuff. Did they all move to Kansas? And why are so many non-white cattle there? Did the Blue People steal them all when...
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    They are both the same person!

    Well, most histories seem to agree on invaders from the far north came in and set themselves up as a ruling class, and later rulers claim to be their descendants. If many became darker over a couple of thousand years that would be possible, of course, but they would probably still be paler than...
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    They are both the same person!

    Ah, so there were blue people, too? Apparently so, if one didn't think colors had other significance in paintings and were actual colors of people then. The Historical Origin of Lord Krishna, the Incarnation of Vishnu Is that a white person in there, too? How is that possible? Are all the...
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    favourite bible version?

    'English' was still a relatively new language, only maybe a couple of centuries old at the time, so the language would be a lot more colorful, certainly. Chaucer and Shakespeare were huge influences on the early language. I like them both as writers. I don't dislike other translations, I just...
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    They are both the same person!

    Too bad there is more to it than your opinions or wishes.
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    They are both the same person!

    There is some question as to Abraham's origins, and in any case I find the need to claim 'Jesus wasn't white' to be a racist fantasy in itself; the fact is given the geographical locations involved and the movements of entire tribes he could look like anybody, including a 'white' looking...
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    If I had to choose a religion ...

    Many change religions like they change their favorite socks, and never actually study any of them very deeply, and then find some rewrite they like and then go round demanding everybody other follower accept their own personal self-made fantasy version as just as valid and seriously as the real...
  10. Oberon12

    What is your favourite movie

    Yes, that's it. It's one of their earlier ones, I believe; they hit their stride later on.
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    What is your favourite movie

    Do you happen to remember the Cohen Bros. comedy with Tom Hanks and his criminal gang tunneling into a bank vault or something from the basement of a black lady's basement? That one was a good one, too. O Brother is my favorite of theirs so far.
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    favourite bible version?

    I use the Sondervan NKJV Illustrated Study Bible, formerly used the KJV, and I also use a NKJV study Bible in chronological order, which is very helpful in some instances. Concordances are helpful as well. The more footnotes the better. My opinion is the translation staff for the NKJV is the...
  13. Oberon12

    What is your favourite movie

    I had forgotten about Being There. Thinks for the reminder; it's been a long while since I've seen it. I'm going to the library today just to see if they have it.
  14. Oberon12

    I appreciate your knowledge of the texts as written without the attempts to rewrite them to mean...

    I appreciate your knowledge of the texts as written without the attempts to rewrite them to mean something else as so many try to do.
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    Question about jesus.

    I was thinking of Sepphoris, but there was building all around in those days, too. Sepphoris « See The Holy Land
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    Question about jesus.

    I'll go with Mathew 13:55, and the numerous analogies Jesus made using building metaphors as sufficient evidence. While stone was the prevalent available building material, they needed carpenters for all kinds of related work in stonemasonry.
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    Question about jesus.

    None of the apostles nor Jesus mentions them in that context. And again, Jesus did not instruct them to leave them at home, obviously, in that instance.
  18. Oberon12

    Question about jesus.

    Yes, and Nazareth was close to a popular Roman resort as well, hence it is likely Joseph was gainfully employed, since Romans. Carpenters were not a poverty occupation by the standards of those days. All good points.
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    Question about jesus.

    Carpenters were construction workers for the most part, and if you want a very detailed and footnoted history and economic and social study of Jerusalem and Jewish culture there get a copy of Joachim Jeremia's Jerusalem In The Time of Jesus. Jerusalem in the Time of Jesus by Joachim Jeremias...
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    Where was Jesus Buried.

    Yes, that's the way the Resurrection reads to me. He reappeared a couple of places, then disappeared again; the tomb remained empty.
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