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    Islamic position on the Bible and Quran.

    As someone mentioned, there's some aggression in your posts, but I will try to answer some of your questions, to the best of my knowledge as I am no scholar. First your question kind of contradicts itself. Why are you looking for answers from the Quran to your question if you claim it was a...
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    Trinitarians will win anyway?

    How do you know what God will say? If the trinity does not exist, then you would be falsely associating equal partners with God, and that is one of the biggest sins against God. “Which commandment is the most important of all?” Jesus replied, “This is the most important: ‘Hear O Israel, the...
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    Clarifications on Christianity

    Again I did not say that its true because God says so in the Quran, I said the Quran had a specific explanation for why people believed Mary when she brought Jesus PBUH to her people, as he spoke to defend her as an infant. From the verses I quoted: (19:27-30) Then she (Maryam/Mary) came to...
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    Clarifications on Christianity

    Sorry but I'm unable to figure out the point your trying to make
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    Clarifications on Christianity

    Yep that makes sense.
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    Clarifications on Christianity

    Funny enough, If I were to quote something from the bible to prove against the trinity it would be that same verse.. how is it expressed clearly that the three are one? and why would Jesus PBUH say "Our" in reference to part of himself? As many others have mentioned, even some Christians as...
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    Clarifications on Christianity

    I doubt people would wait a significant amount of time until Jesus performed miracles to believe Mary, even with these prophecies. The Quran mentions a more detailed post birth events in which she is confronted by her people carrying Jesus and was accused of having extra marital relations, and...
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    Clarifications on Christianity

    I would agree with most of what you said, except that Jesus is merely a prophet of God. If Jesus was truly a son of God, he would actually be worthy of worship, but Jesus never asked anyone to worship him. (Quran 43:81 Surah Az-Zukhruf - 81) Many prophets in the bible are called Son of God...
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    Clarifications on Christianity

    I would disagree, If we can't rely on miracles and signs, then it becomes impossible to distinguish the truth from falsehood. Why would God give prophets signs at all then? Pharoah's magicians were able to falsely imitate Moses's miracles through black magic, but God prevailed the true miracle...
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    Clarifications on Christianity

    Who can say you ask? God does, in the Quran, as I mentioned in my previous reply. (Quran, chapter 19 verse 27 to verse 37).
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    Clarifications on Christianity

    1. Most/if not all prophets prove their truth by showing a miracle. It is easy to claim to be the person mentioned in prophecies, but there has to be a way to prove it to the people. In the Quran, we had an explanation of the miracle that made most people believe, in that Jesus spoke as a...
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    Clarifications on Christianity

    Three "parts" of one, which is still a new concept made after Christianity not taught previously by previous prophets, which was the purpose of my original question.
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    Clarifications on Christianity

    1. But before he grew up and proved himself through miracles, what made convinced she had a miracle child? See my post above clarifying the intention of my question. 2. What gave the Church the right to "clarify" who Jesus was, and how can you know that clarification was the truth? 3. Why...
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    Clarifications on Christianity

    Your still not understanding my point...You are trying to explain why you think people believe in things in general or the concept of faith, and that is not what I am asking at all. I am asking a specific question about when Mary first revealed jesus, what made the people at that time believe...
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    Clarifications on Christianity

    1. Assuming that, it still wouldn't explain how jospeh and mary would make people believe them, which is what I am wondering. 2. That wasn't my question, my question is rather why did the concept of the belief in the trinity only start in Christianity when previous prophets did not teach that?
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    Clarifications on Christianity

    Thank you for your detailed response. 1.I see that there are quite a few prophecies, but would the majority of people believe Mary based on these prophecies that seem to be specific to certain people? I just wrote in another post why I'm intrigued by this specific question, the Quran chapter...
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    Clarifications on Christianity

    1. So are you implying that Judaism, from which Christianity is based, did not understand God? 2. I am not claiming she was raped, as I mentioned in another post, we as muslims believe in Mary's miracle birth and I am not slandering her, I am trying to corroborate the explanation of Jesus's...
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    Clarifications on Christianity

    Not panicking at all, I did get the purpose of your counter question but it is not what I am asking. My question is not simply why people believe in anything that has other natural explanations, it is quite more specific to the story of Mary. We as Muslims actually believe in the miracle birth...
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    Clarifications on Christianity

    1. I skimmed through that post previously, but will look for your answer. 2. See my answer above, as I clarified my question a little better.
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    Clarifications on Christianity

    Thank you, any input is welcome, but I guess the question is tailored to those who believe in that, since you generally would have to believe it to justify it. I guess you might have misunderstood my question as I might have not phrased it very clearly - it is more so, why did people back then...
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