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  1. ClimbingTheLadder

    Never stop questioning

    Definitely.
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    My favourite scientific contradiction in the Quran

    There is no shred of evidence nor any reason to believe Dhul Qarnayan to be Alexander, zero, zilch, nada. Cyrus The Great on the other hand, as I already said, has a massive reputation with all three Abrahamic religions (regarded by Jews too as one of the messiahs of the Tanakh). Everything...
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    Pan The Drunk Goat God

    My favorite pagan deity (if Shiva doesn't count). Pan is really everything, Pan is nature absorbing itself. Pan is an overwhelmingly awesome symbol to me. And as far as the Greek Pantheon goes, Pan is really the only one closest to being the Monotheistic-All. As Pan is everything technically...
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    The Pun Thread

    This year is sick, I gotta say.
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    The Pun Thread

    Lol perfect! :joycat::joycat:
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    Are God Concepts Incoherent?

    Because entities are created things and therefore cannot be the originator of entities of which they themselves are. What you allude to goes back to the classic "Gnostic-Problem" - between "The One vs The Demiurge". An entity will always be an angel, a djinn, an archon, an aeon - but not The...
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    Are God Concepts Incoherent?

    People do worship them now though, hundreds of thousands. And they represent forces of nature which are known to objectively exist, so even if they aren't worshiped - the things they represent will still be there in human experience. Allah etymologically means THE-GOD :joycat::joycat: It's a...
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    Are God Concepts Incoherent?

    How could an entity be God? Unless you're being facetious that is......
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    Son of Man and the Son of God

    Well between Judaism and Christianity the meanings are too significantly different.
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    Is your religion esoteric or exoteric, or both

    Both but strongly esoteric, also known as Batiniyya. I consider both as one thing in itself but the esoteric being the actual truth to be examined from every angle, adored and embraced fully with heart soul and mind. The exoteric is only the first level of deen, the esoteric is at the perfection...
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    My favourite scientific contradiction in the Quran

    You don't get it. Science is our venture, it is what God tells us to do in the Qur'an. If you understand anything in the Qur'an and Islam, you'll know that the Islamic view is that the Universe is made out of signs (Ayah - the same word used for 'verses'). We are told to observe the signs and...
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    My favourite scientific contradiction in the Quran

    You're trying to take an analogy (of God's presence in things - or Tashbih) as a statement of scientific veracity relating to cosmology and astronomy, it's insanely hilarious. If I need someone for tafsir reference, it ain't gonna be you. And that aside, the verses you quoted were directly...
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    My favourite scientific contradiction in the Quran

    Now you're making accusations and not offering up evidence for it. Typo :kissingclosed: But I have proven above that you have made an illogical argument and I have also shown the extent of your assumptions but you have offered nothing in response to it. Technically speaking, none. And it...
  14. ClimbingTheLadder

    My favourite scientific contradiction in the Quran

    Which is not objective any way you slice it. You're the one who started unveiling your views on 20th century supremacy back in post #81, not me. Clearly you stick to your view, based primarily on luxury it seems. I don't say that you're not allowed your opinion but it's deeply flawed, naive and...
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    My favourite scientific contradiction in the Quran

    Saying "I am not a Muslim" ten times in a row is not really contributing any valuable discussion dude. Your argument about language is idioticly fallacious as I've already said. I don't consider exmuslims to be the pinnacle of scholarship on anything, not even atheism. I don't know why that's...
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    My favourite scientific contradiction in the Quran

    You don't know what my beliefs on morality even are, lol, tryna pick fights. Says the one just playing the "my morals are better" fallacy game. Gay (men who worship Jesus) people banning other gay people is absurd. I don't think technology is our savior but you're free to your opinions...
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    My favourite scientific contradiction in the Quran

    There's not much I can do to help you when your problem is with a scripture being revealed in a language, it's a very poor and not well-thought-out argument. I suppose though that you'll be the first to buy into some kind of multilingual AI scripture in the VR future :joycat: The point is not...
  18. ClimbingTheLadder

    You're welcome very much :)

    You're welcome very much :)
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