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  1. epronovost

    Thinking of My American Friends Today

    Seriously when will authoritarian start to use their brain a little bit and study why certain prohibition work and others don't. It would save everybody a lot of time and energy. Fine, you want to reduce elective abortion to null to protect unborn children. I believe this is stupid, but hey...
  2. epronovost

    Thinking of My American Friends Today

    The sources I provided you are excellent and you keep avoiding my point. You do a lot of tiny mistakes here and there and none of them address my point which is the following in bold, all caps and red for your convenience. HOW DO YOU DEAL WITH THE FACT COUNTRIES WHICH MAKE ABORTION ILLEGAL...
  3. epronovost

    Thinking of My American Friends Today

    I think you misunderstand what's being said. They say abortions are safe 9 times out of 10 in countries where it's legal meaning that 1 out of 10 is still a "backyard abortion" while in countries where it's not 6 are backyard ones and 4 out of 10 are done with safety comparable to what a legal...
  4. epronovost

    Thinking of My American Friends Today

    Those video were edited Ken. That's the entire point. PS: Wikipedia does give you the source of their claim that they were edited which was a book on propaganda published by a reputed publisher and authored by a professor emeritus in international relation named Daniel Hellinger.
  5. epronovost

    Thinking of My American Friends Today

    You are aware that Project Veritas is a propaganda outlet that lied about it's planned Parenthood investigation didn't you? They purposefully edited their video to serve their agenda and deceive the public. It wasn't the first nor the only time they would do so or attempt to do so. Project...
  6. epronovost

    Thinking of My American Friends Today

    If it were true how come abortions are in decline per capita in pretty much every countries? Hell how come the abortion rate of Canada, the country with the easiest and complete access to abortion without any sort of restriction on time (and completely free), has a lower abortion rate than the...
  7. epronovost

    Thinking of My American Friends Today

    Yours. As it was shown in the table you have presented. Abortions were significantly rarer last year as they were the year Roe v Wade was passed and from the known statistics we have prior to that. In fact abortions have been in decline in the US since the early 80's and the sharp rise in...
  8. epronovost

    Thinking of My American Friends Today

    @KenS For started, yes, legal abortion have been falling since the late 80's in the US. Second, your source doesn't make a per capita ratio either nor does it adjust for the population in age to reproduce. In the early days of Roe v Wade, the population of the US was a 100 000 000 people lower...
  9. epronovost

    Thinking of My American Friends Today

    Actually, you should read more carefully. Banning abortion INCREASES abortion numbers. If banning murder INCREASED the number of murders then yes, we shouldn't ban murder, but banning murder REDUCES the quantity of murders. We should have laws that are effective at solving the issues we have not...
  10. epronovost

    Thinking of My American Friends Today

    Welcome to reality which is seldom intuitive. No, banning abortions doesn't reduce the quantity of abortions performed just like prohibition on alcohol consumption and purchase (except for religious purpose) didn't reduce alcohol consumption either. The same can be said about pot prohibition. It...
  11. epronovost

    Thinking of My American Friends Today

    I strongly disagree and think you are mistakenly placing pro-choice and pro-life as two opposite side of the spectrum on reproductive rights. It's actually not the case. Pro-choice is a middle ground position. It's the one which lets people decide by themselves if or not they should have an...
  12. epronovost

    Question: Could a U.S. State outlaw kissing.

    Well, by that standard, the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution were pretty much in conflict for most of the US existence then for women and non-white people didn't have the right to liberty, life and the pursuit of happiness most of the country's history.
  13. epronovost

    Question: Could a U.S. State outlaw kissing.

    That's not in the US constitution if memory serves me right, but in the US declaration of independence which is not law. For that matter if "pursuit of happiness" was a constitutional right, women would have had the right to vote, own property, use contraception, get education, practice any job...
  14. epronovost

    Question: Could a U.S. State outlaw kissing.

    That's true, but how would you be able to prosecute those people. You have no way to prove it if they don't do it in public or at least in view of other people. That's basically how anal sex became legal (at least for heterosexual).
  15. epronovost

    Question: Could a U.S. State outlaw kissing.

    Very probably. They probably could already prior to that decision. It's already forbidden to be naked in public for example. It's also illegal to have sex in public so I guess you could forbid kissing, but I'll be a smart *** and say we should then start liking each other's tongue instead of...
  16. epronovost

    A Confucian adage.

    Except the world did and does change by people changing others, even against their own will. We call those "revolution" or "revolt" or sometime "election". Confucius was a wise man, but a terribly conservative man who was preoccupied by maintaining order and harmony in society far more than...
  17. epronovost

    Thinking of My American Friends Today

    That extremist core is indeed fairly representative of the anti-abortion movement if only because they are so active within the movement and often leaders of said movement. The gun rights movement has a similar problem of particularly gun obsessed leaders at the helm of a movement composed of a...
  18. epronovost

    Thinking of My American Friends Today

    The Robert's "third way" is indeed more respectable and prudent. Frankly, restricting elective abortion to 15 weeks isn't a bad idea. 95% of all abortions occur before that anyway. As long as you give more at least 3 months and have quick and easy access to the service, it's perfectly...
  19. epronovost

    Thinking of My American Friends Today

    Then if a percentage of every group is not decent what makes you say that my commentary described every single member of the group? Nothing in it implied it was the case yet you came in waving your little finger as if you were some moral authority on anything, let alone politeness, empathy and...
  20. epronovost

    Thinking of My American Friends Today

    What makes you so sure people who are against abortion are honorable people with honest motives?
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