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  1. J

    Two approaches towards reforming Islam: the Bahai Faith and Ahmadiyya Islam.

    In my estimation, God "authoring" a religion if you will, is a prerequisite. Any human alteration is frowned upon in general
  2. J

    Jesus is not God Almighty Himself

    It has already been mentioned in the thread but not thoroughly addressed. What are we to make of the numerous verses of the bible that refer to other humans as gods. Especially melchizedek as being the begotten son of God. Is this literal or metaphorical?
  3. J

    Two approaches towards reforming Islam: the Bahai Faith and Ahmadiyya Islam.

    There is a difference between God reforming a religion by sending a prophet and humans altering the religion. One is divine one is human tampering
  4. J

    Two approaches towards reforming Islam: the Bahai Faith and Ahmadiyya Islam.

    Unfortunately the quest for equality has really spoiled the natural design God has intended for the family. In all 3 abrahamic faiths there is such a large body of evidence to show that women should be subservient to their husbands. In our era, this inequality has been erroneously interpreted as...
  5. J

    Two approaches towards reforming Islam: the Bahai Faith and Ahmadiyya Islam.

    Reformation is such an offensive concept. It literally means that religion is in Need of alteration. For anyone who believes religion is God given, reform is a blashemous suggestion.
  6. J

    Jesus is not God Almighty Himself

    I mean that the Jews reject Jesus was the messiah. That is one point. Another point is that Jews completely reject the idea that God can be a man or a man can be God in the flesh. If I say why do the Jews reject God in the flesh, one may be tempted to say, well they reject Jesus so what do they...
  7. J

    Jesus is not God Almighty Himself

    As you read this verse you see what seems to claim that humans are gods. I'm asking, why have no Jewish scholars of the Torah taken that meaning from this verse? It would appear that they did not understand that from the verse, possibly due to linguistic points that make this verse metaphorical...
  8. J

    Jesus is not God Almighty Himself

    I'm asking, why do the Jews not use the Torah to support the idea that God can be incarnate. If you ask a Jew if God can be a human, they will say that that this is a blasphemous concept according to the scripture. If this idea were present in the Torah, they would say that yes the Torah does...
  9. J

    Two approaches towards reforming Islam: the Bahai Faith and Ahmadiyya Islam.

    They can never hold a serious place in the larger discussion because their beliefs contradict the 90% majority of Muslims world wide
  10. J

    Two approaches towards reforming Islam: the Bahai Faith and Ahmadiyya Islam.

    What is the reform that the ahmadis initiated
  11. J

    Jesus is not God Almighty Himself

    If all of the prophecies of the messiah to come are from the old testament, isn't it strange that the Jews never held the belief that the messiah would be God incarnate. In other words, doesn't the fact that the Jews do not think that the messiah is God indicate that there is no scriptural...
  12. J

    Did Jesus lie?

    If all of the prophecies of the messiah to come are from the old testament, isn't it strange that the Jews never held the belief that the messiah would be God incarnate. In other words, doesn't the fact that the Jews do not think that the messiah is God indicate that there is no scriptural...
  13. J

    Did Jesus lie?

    And a virgin shall be with child and call his name Immanuel. Virgin being a translation error. John 1:1 ho theos vs ton theos scholarly debate. Definite or indefinite particle
  14. J

    Did Jesus lie?

    Would you agree that the kjv has serious errors as well, according to biblical scholars?
  15. J

    Did Jesus lie?

    Why are you offended? I've literally only asked you questions and made non inflammtory comments.
  16. J

    Did Jesus lie?

    Thank you for this post. My simplified point is that subtle inflections that may be conveyed in one language are not necessarily the same in the language they are translated into. This thread began by using the verse to say that Jesus had either lied or not. My point to one member was, are there...
  17. J

    Did Jesus lie?

    Are you suggesting that the apostles wrote the gospels?
  18. J

    Did Jesus lie?

    The only words in the bible that scholars suggest were Jesus own words are in Aramaic. Eloi eloi lema sabbachtani etc. While some historians have suggested the theory that Jesus spoke greek, there are no greek manuscripts that claim to be the verbatim words of Jesus. Jesus spoke Aramaic and even...
  19. J

    Did Jesus lie?

    I am asking you to provide your sources and a brief summary of what the scholars say and who the scholars are
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