(Please if possible do not answer as you read, please first read the whole post and then answer,) ...............(only if possible)
That sounds like a tautology; obviously “evidence for manipulation” would be evidence for design. These are synonyms,
The question is, if you observe an object...
The expalin it with your own words
Says who?
Nobody defines FT the way you do (in this contex)
Fine tuned doesn’t mean “chosen”
Yes, we whent over that before, some FT have been solved……so what?......... I am pretty sure you will not make the fallacious argument of “some FT have been solved...
Yes, science detect design all the time, archeologists, forensic scientists fire experts etc….Scientists even Aim to detect design in other planets……………..
It is a fact that if gravity would have been say .1% stronger, the universe would have collased in a black hole
It is a fact live could have not existed if a single black hole is all there is in the whole universe.
Which of these facts do you find controversial ………… NONE
(this is what is...
It is a fact that if gravity would have been say .1% stronger, the universe would have collased in a black hole
It is a fact live could have not existed if a single black hole is all there is in the whole universe.
Which of these facts do you find controversial ………… NONE
(this is what is...
Ok so under your view finding meanifull words in the stars or in clouds wouldn’t indicate Intelligent design, but rather paradoilia,...............is that what you are saying? this is a yes or no question
The claim that I made is that we don’t need to know how the pyramids where manufactured...
Fine tuning is not assumed…………..it is a fact that the universe has this property
I´ll suggest that of all the possible explanations, God is the best explanation for this fact……………no circular reasoning……………….
You don’t have to violate any laws, maybe if you look today at some point of the observable universe with a telescope the stars would naturally form meaningful words and sentences by simply following their orbits and the laws of gravity.
Would such an observation be evidence for design?
why...
I disagree because…… there are many cases (hypothetical and real) wher we can infer design even if there is no prior knowledge on ther manufacturing process of the signs that the objects have.
:hypothetical: the SETI project is trying to detect Alien design through various mechanism…….. and...
You don’t have to violate any laws, maybe if you look today at some point of the observable universe with a telescope the stars would naturally form meaningful words and sentences by simply following their orbits and the laws of gravity.
Would such an observation be evidence for design?
why...
It matters because personally I am not interested in having a conversation with someone who doesn’t understand the argument.
If you want a detailed explanation on what the argument is and how the premises are supported, then watch this 5 series videos. (the information in this video represents...
Again, my impression is that you are acting as if you do know that likely there is not a god nor a designer of the universe.
BTW you still have to prove your nonsense premise of “we can’t know if the universe was design or not”
The same would be true with universes that have stars organized such that they look like meaningful words and sentences in English
If there are infinite number of universes, some would have stars that spell the sentence “I exist, sincerely the god of the bible ……….. but yet you still consider...
You said that it probably would not be evidence for God, but you said nothing about a designer………that is why I asked. (but íll take that your answer is no for both God and a designer)
So you simply have ridiculously high standards…………the evidence for God or design is not week it is just that...
Well the issue is that it seems to me that you did determined that it wasn’t designed. (that is why you are an atheist)
It seems to me that you are saying
1 I can´t determine if it was designed or not
2 therefore I conclude no design
(see the contradiction)
Of course, the truth is that...