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  1. Avoice1C

    Barbarism is still going in countries that our Political Leaders call their best friends.

    Sanctuary Cities give illegals rights that citizens don't have. They are also given benefits.
  2. Avoice1C

    Science standards under threat in Arizona

    Both Jews and Romans persecuted Christians. Not just Nero though that was the worst time. Persecution by Romans lasted until the religion was made a state religion. Personally, I think the Christians should have turned down being "a state religion". For many many a year, Christianity became...
  3. Avoice1C

    Science standards under threat in Arizona

    He must have been a worshiper of false Gods. I know of no Christian in this day and age who thinks slavery was anything but an indecent practice. One that God put laws on at least for Hebrews that were made slaves. As I've told Subduction Zone, when I am using the word slave I'm talking about...
  4. Avoice1C

    Science standards under threat in Arizona

    It may have been for a limited time that it was illegal to practice the religion, but persecution from Jews and from Rome were not limited during that time. And I've tried to make persecution from both what I was talking about.
  5. Avoice1C

    Science standards under threat in Arizona

    I've not said any different since the first time you pointed this difference out.
  6. Avoice1C

    Science standards under threat in Arizona

    What part was a lie? I've been accused of thinking That slavery is an OK thing. That opinion is a bold faced lie from the pit of Hades. I never said slavery was Godly. What I've tried to say is God took slavery and made laws governing a distasteful but common practice of the day. And I'll...
  7. Avoice1C

    Science standards under threat in Arizona

    I’ve Never said slavery was alright. Let alone in this day and age. We are discussing a time and place where slavery was the law. In the case of war, captives were taken in that day and age. In this day and age, we deprogram our enemies. What I have been arguing is in the ancient world not...
  8. Avoice1C

    Science standards under threat in Arizona

    I view Slavery from the Christian Kingdom point of view. Hebrews represent the kingdom. And are to be treated well by their brothers to whom they have sold themselves. If they were not, God would not prosper the "owner". God views everything and everybody as His. The slaveholder was...
  9. Avoice1C

    Science standards under threat in Arizona

    you didn't read it Audie, If you had you would have read the last sentence. But you didn't. I said "(The slaveholders who did NOT treat their slaves like family) had only their lives reward, no afterlife. You, like Subduction Zone, don't believe in good people who lived in those times. I...
  10. Avoice1C

    Science standards under threat in Arizona

    Hardly, Some slaveholders treated their slaves like family members. I remember at least one mention of a slave being considered as an heir to the estate of the slaveholder. Another was so trusted that he was sent to pick a wife for his master's son. These are not obscure either. I have...
  11. Avoice1C

    Science standards under threat in Arizona

    Exo 21:7 "If a man sells his daughter as a slave, she is not to go free like the men-slaves. Exo 21:8 If her master married her but decides she no longer pleases him, then he is to allow her to be redeemed. He is not allowed to sell her to a foreign people, because he has treated her...
  12. Avoice1C

    Science standards under threat in Arizona

    May I ask where you get that? Paul was executed for believing there was one God. The History Channel and Smithsonian have had programs on the persecution of Christianity. For a time, it was illegal to practice the religion.
  13. Avoice1C

    Science standards under threat in Arizona

    Yea, Christians are supposed to treat the people they meat as brothers not foreigners.
  14. Avoice1C

    Science standards under threat in Arizona

    I’ve wondered where you were coming from that we were at such odds about this side issue. I finally put my finger on it. You are approaching slave ownership in a worldly way. You highlight the worldly slaveholder. I, on the other hand, am approaching the whole subject from God’s perspective...
  15. Avoice1C

    Science standards under threat in Arizona

    And what you claimed against Paul does not take any less speculation and is not supported by his words.
  16. Avoice1C

    Science standards under threat in Arizona

    Only if he loved his master and his wife and children. Being married after selling one's self did not make one a slave for life without free will. Read it in the Complete Jewish Bible. Your version may be picking and choosing a meaning from Strongs that caters to a liberal mind-set. And...
  17. Avoice1C

    Barbarism is still going in countries that our Political Leaders call their best friends.

    Take a hard look at Sanctuary City policies and favoritisms and how they support illegal immigrants and tell me illegals are not getting, let alone trying to get, benefits Citizens have trouble getting, including free Utilities.
  18. Avoice1C

    Science standards under threat in Arizona

    It seems to me that Christianity was persecuted for being good to people, why add to the hatred of the religion by telling Christian Slaves what they already knew or inciting rebellion against master and the Government. Paul was trying to tell them how to make the best of a bad situation and...
  19. Avoice1C

    Science standards under threat in Arizona

    The Bible does not call them indentured servants it calls them servants. I also doubt, to discuss slavery instead of the subject of which slavery was but a mention by me in response, that God's law in response to Hebrew slaves was followed for more than 3 or so leaders of the Israelites.
  20. Avoice1C

    Science standards under threat in Arizona

    I've already said I stand corrected I read your verse that was posted and responded. Do you also argue with my post that NT slaves could buy their freedom or someone could buy it for them?
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