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    I admire atheists for devoting time for "God"

    But you have defined atheism from the term theism and theism is a proposition, ie., it’s either TRUE or FALSE. IOW, you are arguing against theism’s argument, ie., there is God, with an argument that there is NO God. You are presenting a proposition against theism proposition. You must...
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    I admire atheists for devoting time for "God"

    In Christianity and Judaism, there is one truth or axiom, ie., there is only ONE TRUE GOD, that may not correspond to what your definition of truth. Once you accepted your own definition of what the truth is then it becomes an absolute truth relative only to your own perspective of what the...
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    I admire atheists for devoting time for "God"

    ISM is a proposition.
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    I admire atheists for devoting time for "God"

    If you're looking for absolute truth between theism and atheism propositions that is relative to your perspective of what the truth is then you not gonna find it here.
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    I admire atheists for devoting time for "God"

    The debate is bet two propositions, ie., theism and atheism and both are saying they have the truth but logic is saying it is not possible. The truth based on the Bible is there is only TRUE God.
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    I admire atheists for devoting time for "God"

    A belief was formed in your mind not to believe in religion anymore and became an atheist. So it all started as a form of belief in your mind and you reasoned with this belief that it is the truth, that is, there is NO God. IOW, you can't reason without anything forming in your mind as the truth...
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    I admire atheists for devoting time for "God"

    How many times I have to say this: Your unbelief that there is God is a form of belief, this is your proposition or your argument that you're justifying just right now to be the TRUTH. Is it True or False, that there is no God? If it's True, how do you justify it? With reasons, right? And...
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    I admire atheists for devoting time for "God"

    so how did you know there is a lack if there is no desire
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    I admire atheists for devoting time for "God"

    you mean there is the desire to believe that there is God
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    I admire atheists for devoting time for "God"

    Then there is no truth in atheism. One must justify a belief with the truth.
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    I admire atheists for devoting time for "God"

    ”emotion”? So how do you justify emotion?
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    I admire atheists for devoting time for "God"

    that's very rare! Read and understand: Not believing theism is a belief and it's knowledge or you are initiated to that belief, why can't you understand that? You need to understand that It is not possible to believe in something without adapting to certain knowledge.
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    I admire atheists for devoting time for "God"

    Atheism is knowledge against theism, isn't it? You are a bearer of this knowledge and that's the reason you are debating in this forum. You are the manifestation of atheism, a doctrine. You gotta have a doctrine to be able to debate, otherwise, you are debating from nothing, do you understand...
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    I admire atheists for devoting time for "God"

    Atheism is a doctrine and both theism and atheism has metaphysical claim and I based mine on the Bible, you know, the cause and the effect of my metaphysical claim. My knowledge of God came from the Bible or the Bible was the caused that effected true knowledge of God and that is my metaphysical...
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    I admire atheists for devoting time for "God"

    ”Not a claim”? So why are we debating about it, if it’s not a claim? In order for you, as an atheist, to debate against theism, you gotta have a claim and that is a proposition. Do understand what a proposition means? Your side of claim against thiesm is what you called “ATHEISM” and atheism is...
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    I admire atheists for devoting time for "God"

    you “don’t know” but you are practicing atheism [belief or opinion]. A Marxist without Marxism in practice is a Capitalist. An atheist without atheism in practice is a naturalist and not necessarily against theism at all.
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    I admire atheists for devoting time for "God"

    if all you need is proof or evidence then there is a possibility you will believe that there is God, then you must be an agnostic and not an atheist. Not even science is absolute.
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    I admire atheists for devoting time for "God"

    You could join a movement like Marxism and not entirely knowledgeable about what the movement is all about, you know, like a sheep following a leader where ever it takes you and feeds you with misunderstood literature and then you call yourself a Marxist because you adhere to marxism ideology or...
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    I admire atheists for devoting time for "God"

    so atheism is a "position" or a state of mind but why use ISM if ISM is a proposition. Now if athe-ISM is a proposition then it can't be a state of mind or a "position" therefore it has a claim, just like the-ISM, and it can be tested, right? So, you, as an atheist, what is your claim so we can...
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    I admire atheists for devoting time for "God"

    Do you believe in atheism? If yes then that's a belief. A belief, ie., to be true, that God does not exist, right? But where you got that argument from, that there is no God? I can't say theism is "just a label for when one does not hold" atheistic belief because my argument would not have a...
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