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  1. Socratic Berean

    Christian Trump Supporters

    Yes, it is a particular example…one among many that together paint a consistent and comprehensive picture of good and bad leadership traits, irrespective of actual title (as seen in modern management and leadership theory). It’s not complicated.
  2. Socratic Berean

    Christian Trump Supporters

    Scripture is full of examples on how we are to identify and choose sound leaders. Exodus 18:21 is but one of many examples: “…select capable men from all people—men who fear God, trustworthy men who hate dishonest gain—and appoint them as officials over thousands, hundreds, fifties, and tens.”
  3. Socratic Berean

    Christian Trump Supporters

    There’s a difference between voting “based on Christianity” versus voting based on scriptural definitions (largely found in the pre-Christian Old Testament) of fit and unfit rulers—definitions that are shared by other faiths and modern leadership and management theory.
  4. Socratic Berean

    Christian Trump Supporters

    Agreed. “Pro-life” voters who are also hawkish on foreign policy and advocate for an expansion of capital punishment seem a bit conflicted.
  5. Socratic Berean

    Christian Trump Supporters

    This passage stands on its own, but it addresses a different topic: submission to authority, which only comes to power through the permissive will of God (whether it be Biden, Trump, Obama, or other). It does not address the attributes of good and bad leaders, and God’s permissive will has...
  6. Socratic Berean

    Christian Trump Supporters

    Agreed. If Christians focused on adopting children and supporting single pregnant mothers in need as much as they focus on trying to legislate the issue of abortion, we’d have no orphanages in the U.S. and the “pro-life” conversation would be very different.
  7. Socratic Berean

    Christian Trump Supporters

    Yes, but what people say or believe or feel dodges the point: is their support biblical or not when it comes to clear definitions in scripture of fit and unfit rulers. (Trying to legislate hearts, sin, is folly, and that is what people do when they choose a candidate in hopes of furthering a...
  8. Socratic Berean

    Christian Trump Supporters

    That is true, but scripture does not instruct us to focus on agendas or policies when evaluating the fitness of a leader.
  9. Socratic Berean

    Christian Trump Supporters

    Agreed, but we are not discussing righteousness or verses lifted out of context. We are talking about scripture that directly addresses leadership, fit versus unfit rulers.
  10. Socratic Berean

    Christian Trump Supporters

    Some prominent theologians have come to the same conclusion and encouraged disengagement (see John Piper, for instance, when in 2020 he seemed to refute John MacArthur’s proclamation, “real Christians will vote for Trump.”) I don’t necessarily agree, though, and tend to fall in line more with...
  11. Socratic Berean

    Trump and QAnon?

    Let’s not forget the roles of civics ignorance, media illiteracy, and—in the case of many professed Christians—biblical illiteracy…
  12. Socratic Berean

    What's Wrong With Pagan Origins?

    Aside from parallels in creation narratives that you mention, what aspects of Abrahamic faith do you see as having pagan origins? (I mean actual fundamentals of the faith, as documented in scripture, not later cultural syncretic elements and western add ons like Christmas trees and Hanukkah Harry.)
  13. Socratic Berean

    Trump and QAnon?

    While Qanon will likely continue to atrophy, the mindset that allowed it to blossom in law enforcement, military (special forces included), legislative, and church circles will not fade so fast, and that—in my view—should be of standing concern.
  14. Socratic Berean

    Christian Trump Supporters

    I’d rather not spoon feed the biblically illiterate, at least not this early in the attempted dialogue. Scripture is perfectly clear on the attributes of a good ruler and what we should look to for leadership role models. If professed Believers are unfamiliar with the tenets of their faith, we...
  15. Socratic Berean

    Has "Trumpism" moved beyond Trump to actually trying to destroy the US Democracy?

    When the law was changed in 2020 to place political minders in our government agencies—Trump’s creation of the Schedule S Civil Service positions—like you would see in Russia, China, and North Korea, there was no resulting outcry from any corner of American society. Civics ignorance and...
  16. Socratic Berean

    Has "Trumpism" moved beyond Trump to actually trying to destroy the US Democracy?

    He can no longer control his spawn. If his past behavior is any guide, we may see him modify his position on this—and other issues—to placate the mob and retain favor, and to use his biological children to float trial balloons, like Don Jr.’s recent downplaying of the Bible in what appeared to...
  17. Socratic Berean

    Christian Trump Supporters

    For Christian Trump supporters: please provide a scripturally-based argument for your decision to back this man (without changing the subject to denigrate any opponent), including an explanation for rejecting scripture that clearly casts this person, based on his speech and actions (past and...
  18. Socratic Berean

    Election (the Calvinist sort)

    Running into more people self-aligning with Neo-Calvinism these days. Two questions that I keep getting the runaround on: 1) Do Calvinists believe that, while they are among the elect, their children may be outside of this elite group? 2) How does election align with the Great Commission...
  19. Socratic Berean

    QAnon fallout following Inauguration

    Qanon could not exist in a media-literate, civics-knowledgeable society.
  20. Socratic Berean

    Evangelical Insurrectionists

    ...just another indicator of the extent of biblical illiteracy in the church today (as was so-called Christian nationalists turning a blind eye to POTUS’ elevation to national levels of recognition individuals who are, by scriptural and orthodox interpretation, heretics and false prophets).
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