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  1. osgart

    Bad Chihuahua! (An Inability To Separate God From Religion)

    Do you have an example of a God that atheists are prematurely denying exists? By definition I understand any God as having supernatural power and control over life and existence. I suppose there are more naturalistic gods to choose from. However I wouldn't give any credence to the idea of a...
  2. osgart

    Are atheists arrogant? immoral? angry?

    All these labels like atheist and theist don't really tell you much about a person. Anyone can attach a label to themselves. Anyone can call themselves Christian or atheist and it would be their very own version of it and no one else's. Atheist is very non descriptive. Theism is wishful...
  3. osgart

    Hell on Earth

    Existence is totally indifferent to the plight of life. No one has God ability to fix it all, but we can strive for better with the little bit we can do. It all happens to monsters, and the charitable alike, every bad thing. Some people don't get even one moment of a good life. Some...
  4. osgart

    What is the purpose of religion/spirituality (for you)?

    Spirituality is just recognition of realities that defy physical description. Religion can be, and often is poison, such as the BS about God and the devil, but it doesn't have to be. Good religion guides people toward treating others with care, and is a road to enlightenment, and...
  5. osgart

    What "if" you are wrong

    If I'm wrong we are all at the mercy of a ridiculously insane, and evil God. If I'm wrong then morality has no facts and it's all about ends with no need to justify the means, and it doesn't matter how others are treated. If I'm wrong then death is final and no sensible fundamental reality...
  6. osgart

    Am I the body?

    Well there's substantive content to the inner experience. It's not just passing emotions; here and gone. There's inner characteristics that don't just come and go. It seems that people operate on their understandings, and perceptions rooted in those characteristics. If it could all be explained...
  7. osgart

    A question for all religious believers -- why is your religion more true than any other?

    Ego is overestimating one's nature and abilities and having self confidence not rooted in truth and actuality. Arrogance is different because it's a feeling of superiority without any desire to justify it, nor does it care what is true; according to my definition of truth. Everyone must deal...
  8. osgart

    Are atheists arrogant? immoral? angry?

    According to Robert Lawrence Kuhn, there are different levels of nothing: Level one: Nothing exists, including space-time, mass-energy, and pre-existing laws of physics. This level also includes the absence of non-physical things, such as God, gods, and consciousness. Level two: Space-time...
  9. osgart

    A question for all religious believers -- why is your religion more true than any other?

    Truth is to be in accordance with virtues. My religion is true because it stands up to experience, taught me self control, and humbles me toward all life and not just in or out groups. The more I learn the less I realize that I know. Ideals can make one absolutely humble or totally unrealistic...
  10. osgart

    The Testament of God or a Testament of Love

    Unconditional love only applies to those incapable of willful violation, willful harmful crime, and anything willfully evil. Unconditional love is for the innocent. There's no legitimate law against innocence. Innocence is that life that never ever has malicious intent. Mercy and forbearance...
  11. osgart

    Are atheists arrogant? immoral? angry?

    I was not attempting to insert faith into the scientific process. I was not posting about the scientific process and use of objective evidence. I was arguing about atheism and that atheism is not an arrogant position to hold. I was arguing that atheists often argue in good faith with good...
  12. osgart

    Are atheists arrogant? immoral? angry?

    By good faith I mean arguing with good will and best intentions. I wasn't making reference to science in that sentence. You'll have to tell me where I even said that methodological naturalism had negative goals. It doesn't sound like something I said. I didn't mention naturalism there...
  13. osgart

    Are atheists arrogant? immoral? angry?

    It is in no way arrogant to defend the position of atheism. Bad arguments need to be contested, challenged, and not be given a free pass. Why? Because bad arguments become popular convictions. Some mainstream religions will go on the offensive, and try to gain more territory, and power in...
  14. osgart

    The only solution is to love all mankind

    I see that on one end of things people are morally relative, and can't agree on moral facts. It's like shifting sands, there's no foundation. Blindness, and ignorance paralyze people from contributing to worthy causes. People also invest in religious cure alls that go nowhere. There's no...
  15. osgart

    The only solution is to love all mankind

    You have a problem of evil. Evil doesn't respond well to love. It has no remorse, nor pity, no care, and an arrogance that breeds hatred. It looks in the faces of love with contempt. It laughs in the face of love. It murderers with false causes, it loves its lies, and pittances. Arrogance...
  16. osgart

    Claim: "Understand science well enough, and it'll lead to God"

    Born with rose colored perceptions, science removed those, and revealed that physical reality is cold, totally indifferent, and of a brutally savage nature with regards to biological life. There's no harmony, nor moral justice and truth in nature. The animals must fend for themselves in a...
  17. osgart

    Is Atheism (et al) a Worldview?

    It's because of murder and mayhem that the military becomes a necessity. So a legitimate military is concerned with the need to kill. An illegitimate military is legalized murder. Murder vs. Killing is certainly not based on convenience, whim, nor is it arbitrary. I'm very sure that suspicious...
  18. osgart

    The logic behind worshipping (a) man.

    I can appreciate qualities like intellect, skill, and power without even liking a person. Adoration belongs to a saviour. I've never encountered someone that high up.
  19. osgart

    The logic behind worshipping (a) man.

    I would never worship a human; especially not for reasons of intelligence, beauty, skill, or power. There is the virtue of heart, without heart a human is utterly destructive, warring, and arrogant. Having heart, or good will, and a sense of charity and honor is the only qualities I admire first...
  20. osgart

    Are atheists arrogant? immoral? angry?

    It means I go beyond the default that lack of evidence defaults to non belief. I think the whole field of cosmology, and examining the natural world is evidence that we are not created by a God or gods. I suppose anyone can define some sort of God that fits within the parameters of existent...
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