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  1. sealchan

    Knowing God

    There is a class of experience which I believe reveals that one has had an experience of God. I talk about it at length in this thread The God Dream This is a class of experience found in Genesis and maybe in Acts (Saul/Paul conversion). But it is not specifically Christian.
  2. sealchan

    God is real; an axiom?

    It is hard to point at one book because Jung worked on his ideas in a very "organic" way. His ideas tended to hang together in groups and were always applied to various contexts. There really isn't "a book" to point you to. Jung was, at one point, Freud's presumptive heir...but Jung famously...
  3. sealchan

    God is real; an axiom?

    Jung is a very intuitive writer and is not everyone's cup of tea. I will put some links here. Oftentimes those who followed in his footsteps wrote more approachable explanations: Looks like good general intro... The Jungian Model of the Psyche | Journal Psyche More to the point... Self in...
  4. sealchan

    God is real; an axiom?

    Another approach is to find a better context for understanding God. For me that is understanding that God is an objective reality within the realm of psychology. For me the term God and the term consciousness are enmeshed in what the Swiss psychologist Carl Jung would call the ego-Self...
  5. sealchan

    God is real; an axiom?

    God is an example of what I call a "whole term" meaning it is a term used to describe the set of all things. Like consciousness and the Universe or reality. These terms are like infinity in that they are practically boundless and the tend to produce non-useful logical deductions. Clearly...
  6. sealchan

    Where did world come from?

    There is a third option...that there is a world that precedes this one with a creative agent powerful enough to be a God to us, but subject to laws that confine its own actions.
  7. sealchan

    The Central Revelation of Christianity: God IS the "apple"

    That sounds like the sort of black and white thinking that doesn't stand up to rational discourse. Why read the Bible if the reader isn't engaging in transforming their personal understanding? This is not the same as believing what you want to believe. Your insults suggest a closed mind and...
  8. sealchan

    Reaching the depths of ultimate reality and the experience of it

    You lost me (and the mathematical basis) at super-tautological. When making a logical case to show something is necessary you can't use a tautology.
  9. sealchan

    What happens to Christians aged over twenty-two?

    The time for the question is the time the question comes. Adults or elders don't always know why they believe something and so when their efforts fail to work they fall back on an often sincere appeal to their own journey and the apparent softening of hard rational answers that the young tend...
  10. sealchan

    How to react to someone who clearly avoid answering?

    The discussion is, for them, a proxy for addressing an emotional need which, perhaps, they have had since being a child. Their self-dignity is on the line and so they change the topic in a bid to maintain their sense of dignity/value. You should proceed accordingly with the upmost of care and...
  11. sealchan

    Is government a byproduct of our sinful nature?

    I appreciate this topic as I think that a major theme of the Jewish Bible is that government is a necessary evil but it is also important that a people submit to each other in the form of a covenant which grants the community the power to consequent its members who act too far out of the rules...
  12. sealchan

    The Central Revelation of Christianity: God IS the "apple"

    I think it is highly arrogant to dismiss Judaism as a lesser religion. I do agree that the story of Adam and Eve is fictional.
  13. sealchan

    Information in the Genome

    The simple answer is that information can be created without the creator explicitly knowing it. That is the evolution of life as such has no conscious awareness that it is producing any sort of order at all. The evolutionary process does not seek a goal or interpret the outcomes of its...
  14. sealchan

    Do we still need religion?

    So the question becomes "is religion needed to create personal, life-sustaining happiness and a sense of belonging which, likely, causes a greater sense of personal meaning through social belonging?"
  15. sealchan

    Reaching the depths of ultimate reality and the experience of it

    Logic is a vital aid to rationally understanding but regard to the ultimate logic is but a stepping stone. I doubt you have a mathematical proof of God. If so your claim is insincere at best, manipulative at worst.
  16. sealchan

    The Central Revelation of Christianity: God IS the "apple"

    I'm afraid your language is inscrutable to me. I believe you are being sincere, but unfortunately I cannot make out what you are saying. My apologies.
  17. sealchan

    The Central Revelation of Christianity: God IS the "apple"

    So you believe that believing that the story of the Serpent literally talked to Eve or that this story literally happened is believing a lie and that the very story is, as a literal truth, a forbidden act by God?
  18. sealchan

    Most promising proof of God?

    I was inspired to craft a story of God as the Nothing Yet of Infinite Potential. In my story It started creating things but realized right away that It had no way of knowing whether what It created was an hallucination or not. That issue was only "resolved" (dropped really) when something that...
  19. sealchan

    Sun created on Genesis Day 4, Plants on Day 3?

    Well, the story talks about days and nights as well...with no sun and moon. To me, I think this suggested an understanding of time separate from the sun and moon. Even Tolkien had trees and plants growing under starlight before the coming of the Sun and Moon in his creation story (The...
  20. sealchan

    A group of interfaith with members from different religions

    It is simplistic and demonstrably naïve to think all truth can be expressed in a provably, objective fashion. There is much utility in truths that are practical and meaningful, non-logical and unprovable, experienceable and subjective. If someone who is tone deaf to this can't keep themselves...
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