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  1. Unfathomable Tao

    I've had a 'crisis of atheism'

    Hello everyone, sorry I haven't been on for almost a month. I've been really busy, but I want to share this with all of you. I've been feeling increasingly hopeless about life in general over the past weeks. That's not to say I was unhappy or life felt like it had no point, just that I started...
  2. Unfathomable Tao

    Why call the great mystery 'God'?

    Because you seem to be arguing that scientific laws are laws of such a sort. Am I wrong?
  3. Unfathomable Tao

    Why call the great mystery 'God'?

    I'd agree, but I don't think logic can necessarily tell us the entire truth, even if its all we have. I don't underestimate the philosophical problems of the limitations of our perception.
  4. Unfathomable Tao

    With Or Without God

    I would ask when considering this question of 'meaning', if it is indeed a given that everything needs a 'meaning' or 'purpose' as it were. I don't believe it is, seeing as we goof off with buddies, drink alcohol, watch movies, etc- and there's not really of a complex purpose to it.
  5. Unfathomable Tao

    Why call the great mystery 'God'?

    Except that in the scientific sense a law doesn't mean this- as though we were speaking of a written law, conceived by somebody. Its basically a premise unable to be contradicted through experimentation.
  6. Unfathomable Tao

    Why call the great mystery 'God'?

    I don't know if there is such a thing, as we would call I thing. I'm very playful with the idea of the Tao, as I think Lao-tzu was. I don't know if there is a Tao, but the conception we call the Tao.
  7. Unfathomable Tao

    Why call the great mystery 'God'?

    I don't fundamentally object to this definition, its the associations with the concept I think could be problematic.
  8. Unfathomable Tao

    The Ship of Theseus Paradox

    I don't know if there is a fundamental or lasting essence, being of an eastern worldview that puts some emphasis on voidness. I think the western mind likes to think in terms of fundamentals, essence, images, ground, and the like. As I see it, life is a constant changing flux, and essentialism...
  9. Unfathomable Tao

    With Or Without God

    Further yet- how could a god give life its meaning when people have not believed in this god in every place and time? Can the meaning for life as some theists believe it be many? If that is so, atheism is just as meaningful as theism by their admission.
  10. Unfathomable Tao

    Why call the great mystery 'God'?

    You take the laws of existence to come from a being you call G-d then? Even though laws doesn't mean that in a scientific sense? Also, I'm sure plenty of people would debate if the Tanakh is logical. Just bear in mind that science would have no use if human logic were enough by itself.
  11. Unfathomable Tao

    Why call the great mystery 'God'?

    If I thought it were, I'd still want to safeguard the Tao from the myriad baggage that comes with the usage 'God'. I don't deny you could be right, but are we speaking of a god as typically understood? An entity, a being?
  12. Unfathomable Tao

    Why call the great mystery 'God'?

    If God were just another name for it, wouldn't that make it subject to all the questions concerning 'God'? I mean, I know pantheists don't really believe 'God' is a being or entity, but many people do.
  13. Unfathomable Tao

    Why call the great mystery 'God'?

    Logical is so confined to human understanding, no? Is the Tanakh always 'logical'?
  14. Unfathomable Tao

    Why call the great mystery 'God'?

    I don't assume there is such a thing, as though it were a thing I were talking about. I know people find the ambiguity of the Tao hard to appreciate. All I can tell you about my personal 'belief' in it, is that I hold it is the unknown, subtle unity of all life, and that when I practice...
  15. Unfathomable Tao

    Why call the great mystery 'God'?

    It doesn't have to be called that either, but knowing what we know about Lao-tzu, he may have coined it with no important meaning, almost playfully. He is said to have been the 'ancient child', referring to his maturity and childish playfulness in one individual.
  16. Unfathomable Tao

    Frubal? Interesting

    Frubal? Interesting
  17. Unfathomable Tao

    The Ship of Theseus Paradox

    Yes I quite agree with you there, hence I mentioned sentimentality. Its a view some may have about the thing, despite the truth.
  18. Unfathomable Tao

    The Ship of Theseus Paradox

    Its a question of a lot of those things actually. Even if the ship were partly renovated with different materials, a philosopher might ask is it the same ship?
  19. Unfathomable Tao

    The Ship of Theseus Paradox

    I was reminded of this paradox just today by a good philosopher friend, so I figured we should have a thread about it. This paradox's origins are in the story of the Ship of Theseus. Plutarch said the Greeks maintained a ship they held belonged to Theseus, and philosophers started asking the...
  20. Unfathomable Tao

    The Pope on women and gays

    I don't doubt your word here, but is that the tolerance and love of lay Catholics, moreso than the teachings of the Church? I thought the teachings of the Church is that gay people are to aspire to celibacy? I would think that was much like telling a straight person that wants to love and find...
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