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  1. Marisa

    Abortion

    There are parts of this message board where preaching is more welcomed, although last I checked preaching remains against the rules. Perhaps those comments will be better received in one of those parts of the board.
  2. Marisa

    Abortion

    I am not broken. That's a meaningless phrase. I broke a chip off my right ankle bone when I was a young woman, but that's the closest I've been. I'm not interested in comparing your ethics to mine. It, too, is pointless. I'm interested in the fact that you seem to think I'm not competent to...
  3. Marisa

    Abortion

    If risk is not the "the" issue, then why tell that particular half-thruth? You had to know that someone was going to correct it. If your version of morality is so superior to every other on this issue then you should have no trouble selling it honestly. FYI, I don't appreciate the other...
  4. Marisa

    Abortion

    Yes it is. Some people think dancing is immoral. Some think drinking alcohol is. We're banging our heads against the wall with the rest. I'm never going to show you a piece of fact or data you will accept because you don't value them. But you are wrong about me. If you could present me...
  5. Marisa

    Abortion

    No, there's not. Because if there was, we would know it. We would SEE it. One Gosnell clinic shows up and the whole nation loses it's mind, rightly so, but no stream of them comes after. Logic. It's a thing. No, I'm not out personally doing the research. But I have zero reason to...
  6. Marisa

    Abortion

    The Mayo Clinic is a business. Yes. It has a marketing page. Yes. That does not mean the facts it dissiminates are questionable. That's conspiracy theorism. The same facts can be found on multiple websites. Here's where you ball up your credibility and toss it right out the window. You...
  7. Marisa

    Abortion

    I'm gonna go ahead and expect more than conspiratorial, baseless assumptions.
  8. Marisa

    Abortion

    Interesting. One assumes you'd value research and data more. I guess you do, if it's seems to be in your favor. Was interesting how you stopped reading the Mayo link when it seemed to validate your perspective.
  9. Marisa

    Abortion

    I'm not competent to read the research, and I'd hazard a guess that neither are you. That's why institutions like Guttmacher exist. It's always possible to use common sense and logic. Considering the number of abortions that are performed annually, if they were having this huge detrimental...
  10. Marisa

    Abortion

    I stand behind my assertion that there is no evidence which will convince someone who's impervious to evidence. Your judgement is valid only to you. I don't begrudge you your opinion. Sex is normal, though. It's your moralization that makes it dirty.
  11. Marisa

    Abortion

    You should have kept reading (emphasis mine). "Rarely, a surgical abortion can damage the cervix or uterus. In such cases, surgery might be needed to correct the damage before a woman can conceive again. Also, rarely the cervix can be weakened, leading to the potential for the cervix to open...
  12. Marisa

    Abortion

    I didn't say my mom made any claim. I thought we were just trading parental job information, as it has no other possible relevance in a discussion where facts are present. My "claim" came from the Mayo Clinic, which is a highly respected institute and also which happens to be non-profit, and...
  13. Marisa

    Abortion

    I'm not going to argue that, I can't. Because for those who don't value evidence, there is no evidence which can be presented such a person will value. Guttmacher Institute: Advancing Sexual and Reproductive Health Worldwide through RESEARCH, Policy Analysis and Public Education...
  14. Marisa

    Abortion

    The link I posted is from the Mayo Clinic. Abortion carries a 0.5% risk of complication to a woman. Because no medical procedure is 100% safe, any complication can have future ramifications, but 0.5% rate of complication is well beyond "pretty low". Outpatient colonoscopy, which is performed...
  15. Marisa

    Abortion

    Thank you. Accepted.
  16. Marisa

    Abortion

    Respect is earned. There is no difference between the tenor of my replies to you and the tenor with which you deliver your opinions. If you want respect, be respectful.
  17. Marisa

    Abortion

    False. Do note the repeated use of the term "rarely". http://www.mayoclinic.org/healthy-lifestyle/getting-pregnant/expert-answers/abortion/faq-20058551
  18. Marisa

    Abortion

    My concern is for the impunity with which some foist their morals on others for what appears to be the express purpose of boosting their own sense of piety. It's with no personal requirement to appreciate another person's circumstances that such judgment is meted out, and with such callous...
  19. Marisa

    Abortion

    I never assumed you were. I disagree that what you believe in has any intrinsic value, but I have all but set myself on fire trying to convince you that I respect you as a person despite my complete lack of respect for your religion, and you nonetheless seem determined to make that mean that I...
  20. Marisa

    The GOP campaign

    As a person, I think I like Carly Fiorina. I didn't get to see her debate, but I did watch the "top tier" candidates. The moderators did mention what a wonderful job she did. I saw her briefly interviewed by Anderson Cooper on his show and he asked her about a comment that had been made...
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