i see what you're saying, and you do have a point, although theatre is generally considered it's own art (as in the arts). when shakespeares plays is studied as literature it's generally the written aspect of the plays that's being discussed, the text. but if we're trying to understand macbeth...
I DON'T.
but you yourself do when you say that you're trying to "give comics recognition they deserve" by calling them literature. that is more or less saying literature is better than comics. that is treating literature as a label that implies quality. that is what i think YOU do.
i say...
because people have the notion that classical music is intrinsically more elevated than pop music, which anyone that's familiar with, say, haydn should know is completely unfounded. ;)
but i don't mean that people would say that they're actually a symphony, more that they're like a symphony...
what you were saying didn't match what i wrote. so i figured we weren't quite connecting...
'good vibrations' or 'river deep, mountain high' are just two examples of songs people like to call symphonies. but forget it, it's just an example.
that's exactly my point. :help:
what i'm trying to say is that, IMHO, we should question the idea of 'high' and 'low' culture instead of trying to fit comics in a square hole (for example 'literature' or 'visual arts') where it'll never quite belong or feel comfortable. is that clearer?
i'm saying that what people are trying to do when they call comics literature is the same thing they're trying to do when they call a pop song a symphony. they're trying to say 'this is as good as high culture'.
but by saying that, they're kind of accepting that the medium itself has some kind...
which is a good thing, but i feel that questioning the idea that ''literature' is much better than 'comics' is a lot better than saying that comics=literature.
it's like saying a three-minute pop song is a symphony, because a lot of people believe that 'classical music' is better, 'more...
they're texts. comics aren't.
ok, that's a nice definition, and perfectly valid i guess. but what i get from the whole 'comics is literature' discussion (not just here) is that people are trying to 'elevate' comics by saying it's literature. i say comics is a perfectly valid art form in its...
no, literature is literature and comics is comics. two very different mediums. most good comics wouldn't work in a literary format at all.
my two examples of 'great' (in the sense of 'great art') comics is george herriman's krazy kat or wilson mccay's little nemo in slumberland.
there's no link between being 'very good' at art and generating profit. in fact, caring about artistic value is often in opposition to making money off your art.
the world can 'operate' just fine. but i'm not necessarily making any 'suggestions' here. i'm pointing out that your givens aren't...
yes, 'lapps' is more or less derogatory - but still widely used, unfortunately. so it's an understandable mistake. :)
actually, the tradition of seiðr among the 'norse' peoples seem to have had elements that could be called 'shamanistic'. these practices are probably for the most part a result...
i actually think it's just a different 'approach'. western viewers react to things that would never be allowed in their own countries, but it's always hard to observe your own culture objectively. what is allowed in the US isn't necessarily allowed in Japan.
concerning anime ethnicity, they're...
'to move forward' can mean a lot of things. it doesn't necessarily mean smaller ipods.
people needs 'incentive' - or to be forced - to produce things they wouldn't produce spontaneously or volountarily, yes. perhaps if you would spend some time with poets or artists you'd find there's plenty of...