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    Utah Catholic Bishop Clarifies Vatican Directive No To Release Parish Names

    Just in case you weren't aware, we don't see baptism like LDS. We believe God can make things work inside of us without us giving it nod. I speak here of anybody that hasn't reached the age of reason. This isn't really that odd if you take the OT into consideration. When do you think the Jews...
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    I'm against abortion myself, but....

    Yup. You did agree to Dallas sarcasm and continued to vouch for it's truthfulness no? BTW, it wasn't even a statement directed at you specifically but more to Dallas and you jumping in high fiving each other.
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    I'm against abortion myself, but....

    It's a matter of opinion and subject to interpretation. I'd be more then happy to continue, but it becomes increasingly difficult when you've already been painted with a broad brush. Thanks anyways.
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    I'm against abortion myself, but....

    Spot on. :areyoucra So much for having a civil adult conversation. Maybe that's just too hard for some people.
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    I'm against abortion myself, but....

    IMO, politicizing it is what confused it. Politics is the weapon of choice against religion. It started with the protestants fighting off anticlericalism (mega-churches) and it slowly developed into kicking out all things religious of the public arena. Particulary in the 19th century an...
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    I'm against abortion myself, but....

    Neither do I. I mentioned something similar earlier: That's the thing, as a society we do intervene in people's lives if the choice harms others. And in this case, it's the ending of a life.
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    Roman Catholic: Mass

    Yes. 1. Dress code. Anything close to a Birthday suit...not allowed! 2. I liked the idea of the priest looking in the same direction as the laity. Atleast during the Eucharist. Let him walk with us to receive our Lord. 3. In some parishes the music is sort of becoming more of an entertainment...
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    I'm against abortion myself, but....

    Ok, you have a good day. You should really read what I said and what connections I was drawing. Apparently you know what's on my mind better then I do.
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    I'm against abortion myself, but....

    Excuse me? I made no such connections. The connections were made by you. Seriously, just take it with a grain of salt and extract the point I'm trying to make then play victim and draw connections I didn't make.
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    I'm against abortion myself, but....

    You should really stick to the point being made then taking it so personal. Especially when I didn't even intend such connections.
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    I'm against abortion myself, but....

    It's an excellent way to divert the discussion. Nonetheless, I completely agree with you. Which is why I highly consider people adopt, including us. On another note, it's dangerous in my opinion to assume one knows the quality of life most would end up living. You know how many people wouldn't...
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    I'm against abortion myself, but....

    The thing is that we all directly or indirectly impose our morals on others. A cannibalistic man can feel judged. A rapist can feel judged. A pedophile feels judged. A drunk driver can feel judged. List goes on and on… And what do we do? We (society as a whole) make it clear that we won’t...
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    I'm against abortion myself, but....

    If we clarify things, there will be nothing to talk about. :D That's quote worthy. Ah, new signature.
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    I'm against abortion myself, but....

    You took it farther then I even intended it. The only connection I was making was with deciding if the infant is "wanted" or not.
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    I'm against abortion myself, but....

    That is the overwhelming opinion of the elite within the Church. But its not conclusive or dogmatic in any sense of the word. The intention of the Church is to save innocent lives. Once you get into "Which innocent life should I save?"...that gets a little more tricky. But yeah, I think most...
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    I'm against abortion myself, but....

    Be careful with that though. There is something wrong with determining whether someone should live or not (whether it be the female/male or both) simply based on whether they are "wanted". So giving the man rights doesn't necessarily fix the problem. It's got a Hitler tone to it you know?
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    I'm against abortion myself, but....

    That's the thing, as a society we do intervene in people's lives if the choice harms others. And in this case, it's the ending of a life. Although, I will tell you from experience that terminating the pregnancy doesn't fix whatever problems existed prior.
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    I'm against abortion myself, but....

    Don't worry, He'll be at the voting booths if the opportunity arises.
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    I'm against abortion myself, but....

    Understand that pro-lifers like pro-choicers can be as different to how they express themselves and how they perceive the whole thing. I have absolutely no desire (and flat out object) to supress women rights. Read that again because I think this is often missed about pro-lifers. But...we...
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    I'm against abortion myself, but....

    What a load of.... You know, it's just unfortunate you have to paint us in such a way. As if we were oblivious to the fact that a women could be in pain and she needs people around her. It truly is sad that it's seen as an attempt to bring down the women to the archaic days, rather then...
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