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    Hoping for some thoughts from mormons

    My tone has changed only because my opinion has changed. I began by thinking, maybe the BoM is true but the church has just lost its way. But since then I have realized that even that is too much. I know we are done :) So I will not post any more here. Since you wanted to know my...
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    Hoping for some thoughts from mormons

    Over the last 200 years a number of people have claimed to be religious prophets with special spiritual authority from God. These include Charles Taze Russell (Jehovah’s Witnesses), Ellen G. White (Seventh-day Adventists), Mary Baker Eddy (Christian Science), and Joseph Smith (Church of Jesus...
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    Hoping for some thoughts from mormons

    Let me give you some FALSE prophecy of Jospeph Smith. Remembering that even ONE that fails denotes someone not of God. The Mormons were forced to flee Missouri due to persecution and a temple was never built on the "temple lot" in the lifetime of Joseph Smith or within the generation of his...
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    Hoping for some thoughts from mormons

    Benjosh- Everything you say only works if we assume the BoM to be inspired revelation. I put it against the test of a false prophet, It fails. I see if it trys to persuade me to something different than the God of the bible, and again I see that It does. I could say the same things to...
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    Christians: Belief in time?

    Katz I'm backing down. A debater at heart i guess... :) Hostile relations are not the goal.
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    Abrahamic - Mormons

    Sorry, I just read your post saying that Joseph Smith's teachings are not all accepted so you dont have to restate it :) I understand.
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    Christians: Belief in time?

    Im trying to say that in any specific moment there is nothing to cause it to go into the next without God. In other words, without God there would be no moments. No human progression. I would hope that a time travel machine is never created or not only would the foundations of religion find...
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    Abrahamic - Mormons

    Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith- Page 346 Same Book One page previous edit- If this is unaccepted by the church as Katz was saying then I am just in the wrong here. I apologize, and back down not intending to harm relations here. :shout
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    Christians: Belief in time?

    Um, thats a little hostile. Thats not something you can know. And I find it funny that I can have the books in my hand where the teachings you say are not correct. Joseph Smith said- "He was once a man like us; yea, that God himself, the Father of us all, dwelt on an earth, the...
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    Christians: Belief in time?

    I dont think its driven by it. Thats not my intent. I only meant to say there is no potential in the moment to 'cause' the next. I really was saying the opposite. That nothing can create the next moment but God. No I believe he has a will, and he follows it. Not accidently but purposefully...
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    Abrahamic - Mormons

    No i believe prophets are the vessels by which the perfect word of God comes through. If they were talking in conversation I would expect nothing. But if he says that this is from the Lord, that then it is later refuted I find it inexcusable. And your right Kat... Mormonism is the only other...
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    Christians: Belief in time?

    Actually I propose you can break it into its root part. Which is the moment with no potential energy involved. I believe we have motive decided moment by moment. In other words we are given decisions at each moment and by our decision the next moment is born. We are given countless decisions...
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    Christians: Belief in time?

    haha I just meant we are off topic. :o But mormon theology has changed over time. But its STILL the idea that God used to be like us, and that how God is now we will be. Are you saying that you DONT believe that evetually you will be God to a race like we are now? If so you haven't looked at...
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    Christians: Belief in time?

    There is differences in the way we are saved, the God that we worship, the Savior Jesus, Mary, The apostles, Its a revamp. We could ask other christians do we believe that Jews are saved? I do believe that if you seek you will find though, no matter what banner you fly under. I can only...
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    Abrahamic - Mormons

    How can all the past prophets who believed views like the modern time just have been wrong on such a huge issue though? Don't you find it convienent when the mormon church began turning around their thoughts in the 70's? they HAD to and I think everyone here knows it. That sheds much doubt...
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    Christians: Belief in time?

    AHH... this was supposed to be about time. :) Maybe I should have specified, protestants and catholics who hold to the perfection of God.
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    Christians: Belief in time?

    Potential implies an ability to be greater than you currently are. (which you know) But the implication is that there could be God's greater than OUR God. (Isn't that the teaching? That God used to be like us?) So I assume our God had a God at one point... Well Why again does God say he knows no...
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    Christians: Belief in time?

    Well I know you don't go to logical fallicies with that... And most would agree that its refering to humans, we all know God can acheive any of his goals. But saying hes the Alpha and Omega.. The beginning the End.. Thats all encompassing. God has no room for improvement because that would...
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    Abrahamic - Mormons

    That's merely interpretation. Its an extent. God of Gods, King of Kings, Lord of Lords, Master of Masters, The beginning and the End. refers nothing to there being more kings.. and other lords.. Thats sort of out of context. Try this translation- The Mighty One,God Jehovah, the Mighty One,God...
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    Abrahamic - Mormons

    little-g gods are usually referred to as idols. do mormons hold that bhaal is another progressed man who is sort of interferring with our God? Though shalt have no other gods before me? refers to idols. you can't serve allah and God, its one or the other. Jesus refers to ANYTHING that pulls...
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