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    Atheism...the religion of...science?

    A- without theism - belief in a god or gods Without belief or non-belief There is no philosophical content. Why is this so hard to understand? atheists have different philosophical lifestances and viewpoints. If two people don't believe in astrology, that doesn't mean that they...
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    Atheism...the religion of...science?

    Well OK spookyboy if that defense works for you - it really didn't do much for me. So I guess it's settled then, since no real evidence of science being a religion at all was presented, and since atheism simply means "without theism" literally, the thread's opinion (not a premise since it...
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    Atheism...the religion of...science?

    Well, as long as he'll take back Luke 19:27. 27But those enemies of mine who did not want me to be king over them—bring them here and kill them in front of me." :eek:
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    Religion and children

    I agree with your assessment, flupke. We atheists are more than likely freethinkers, so an awful lot of us expose our kids to a variety of views and religious perspectives (at least we try, given that there are so many religious viewpoints). I couldn't help but think during the exchange...
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    Secure in your convictions?

    It's rather ironic, Katzpur, but as an atheist, I am with you 100%. As an atheist, there is the constant litany of those claiming my non-belief in the supernatural, is in fact its own belief -- in effect, telling me what I believe. Of course, there's the other part where there is this notion...
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    Atheism...the religion of...science?

    I thought this thread was entitled Atheism...the religion of...science? As we've seen Hero is not really intersted in what an atheist thinks, he just put the topic there in order to preach his nonsense. A- "without" Theism-"Belief in one or more gods or goddesses" so atheism is a person...
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    Which type of Darwinist?

    Just wanted to say thank you, Jayhawker Soule fortaking the time and the effort to explain that!
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    Atheism...the religion of...science?

    GRIN - You obviously are not listening, and would prefer to preach. Is Christianity the only religion? Are you claiming that a god exists? Then it is you - the one making the claim that something is so, that must support that claim. A good place for you to start might be defining what it is...
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    Should science be considered a religion?

    Simply pulling up dictionary definitons for words doesn't constitute an argument. Humor me by looking up "cult" "crazy" and "fanatic" especially note the origins of "fanatic" -- these are all from you favorite dictionary site. So because a definition happens to be extensible to some aspect of...
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    Should science be considered a religion?

    Perhaps you have again become confused about to whom you are speaking and which definition you used. The referent definition in our conversation was this: I don't see how any of these makes science a religion. Your "duck story" is irrelevent, and not to the point being made. It escapes me how...
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    Should science be considered a religion?

    I've noticed that you don't really address the arguments that others make. You do seem to ask them whether they've made some absolutist statement that they clearly have not made, rather than rebut their arguments directly, or constructing your own arguments as a rebuttal. The reason a...
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    Atheism...the religion of...science?

    An atheist doesn't believe in god, so there is nothing to defy. Reason, as a methodology of logic, is really all that is being used, whether to debate religion or politics or almost any other subject. So go ahead and lay out your arguments. Debate does seem to work best if you confine it to...
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    Should science be considered a religion?

    Hi Jon. Not trying to be difficult, but it is really not very helpful in forum like this to suggest that the participants go study theoretical quantum physics and then see if they agree with you. Since this is a debate forum, I'm hoping you are willing to lay out an argument about a particular...
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    Should science be considered a religion?

    Please explain what you mean by "reason" if it is not what I've defined above. Further, I am expressing the aspects of religion that are grounded in its supernatural elements, not whether it is reasonable to be nice to one another, for example. Please address your comments to the supernatural...
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    Should science be considered a religion?

    Assuming this is a genuine thread, and isn't simply another frivolous attempt to pretend that there is a willingness to understand, then I would offer the following: Blade, in his original post, tends to confuse science and atheism as being the same thing. I know it's been written on this forum...
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    Humans from Chance?

    Man, this seems to go 'round and 'round - no point seems to ever be made. I comment that a person who makes a premise saying something can't come from nothing can't turn right around and except themselves from their own premise, and the answer is "God is different"! Turning right around and...
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    Humans from Chance?

    I hope you realize you aren't arguing evolution vs creationism. Evolution is not about how the first life came to be. It makes no claim that humans came from nothing. It describes the observations of the natural sciences as describes the evolution of life from common forms through natural...
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    Why do (some) Theists not bother to *really* understand evolution?

    I agree, with what you say, but don't think the concepts are inaccessable. Certainly part of the equation is that evolution isn't about just one scientific discipline, but many. But I think it is understandable to the layman, too. I'm reading "The Ancestors Tale" now. Geology isn't some...
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    Humans from Chance?

    (This was a request regarding JerryL's most excellent post) What the heck are you talking about Jeffrey? You are already convinced that life on earth came from nothing! We are just arguing methodology!
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    Humans from Chance?

    Why stop there? If you are willing to accept without evidence, then you can believe every mythology ever created and even dream up new ones - no limits! In this realm, truth is just another made-up fantasy anyway!:D
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