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  1. Ceridwen018

    Does science prove the existence of god?

    This statement is wishful thinking. The formation of religion due to reasons proven other than an "actual god" have been observed in recent history. Cargo cult - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia I'm actually a little amazed that you would make thi statement. I thought the...
  2. Ceridwen018

    Part 2, an attack on creationism

    You're assuming there is a "why" to find. That's because the process takes millions of years to happen naturally. We can watch individual events in the lab, such as, we can witness the organic molecules formed from inorganic molecules start to get together and form a series of "cell-like"...
  3. Ceridwen018

    Why do people believe in Creationism despite its lack of testable predictions?

    I'm glad you love science, but you don't seem to know much about it. Observation comes before prediction. You observe something happening, such as a butterfly emerging from its chrysalis, and then you make a prediction as to why or how it happens that way. Observations hold merit in their...
  4. Ceridwen018

    Does science prove the existence of god?

    That's not what I'm trying to say. I agree with you that if one idea about the supernatural is shown to be false, that doesn't mean you can conclude that everything about the supernatural is also false. What I mean to say is that that is the entire problem right there: Because we have no...
  5. Ceridwen018

    Does science prove the existence of god?

    I'm in no way suggesting that science is intentionally trying to smoke out supernatural ideas--it doesn't have to. Like I said in the post I made on pg. 34, "prove" and "disprove" are relative terms here. Science cannot "prove" or "disprove" anything with 100% certainty, but that doesn't...
  6. Ceridwen018

    Atheists Only: Would this be proof?

    Katzpur, To answer your initial post; If the experiment with the sick patients ended up as you said, I would definately be intrigued. I wouldn't drop everything and believe in god on the spot, but I would certainly want to pursue further testing. I wonder...if god was real and sick...
  7. Ceridwen018

    Does science prove the existence of god?

    The evidence is in God's absence, like I said before. Let me try to explain in a different way: Imagine you were a crime scene investigator (a type of scientist) analyzing a body involved in a homicide. You were able to identify the killer through DNA found on the body, and from there...
  8. Ceridwen018

    Why do people believe in Creationism despite its lack of testable predictions?

    I'll have to ask you to explain. The fact that H(2)O puts out fire is testable on the molecular level and beyond, so I guess I don't see your finer point here.
  9. Ceridwen018

    Happy birthday Green Gaia

    Happy Birthday to you! :balloons:
  10. Ceridwen018

    If religion did not exist, would the world be a less violent and safer place?

    I think most people would agree that its not necessarily religion that's the problem, its dogmatism. (Granted, some religions are founded in dogmatism so they would have to go...) For instance, Stalin and Mao were atheists, but their people worshipped and obeyed them as if they were gods...
  11. Ceridwen018

    Why do people believe in Creationism despite its lack of testable predictions?

    Yes. Re: How do the chemicals in a fire extinguisher put out a fire?
  12. Ceridwen018

    Does science prove the existence of god?

    I'm not sure I agree with this. If transubstantiation (a Catholic belief, for instance) was proven wrong, then that would be an example of a belief that pertains to God being proven wrong. It may not be your personal belief about God (disproving the transubstantiation would have no affect on...
  13. Ceridwen018

    Why do people believe in Creationism despite its lack of testable predictions?

    We've been doing it since the 50's. The Miller/Urey Experiment
  14. Ceridwen018

    Does science prove the existence of god?

    I'm a bit confused as to what you mean by this, so please correct me if I'm wrong. I think what you're saying is that you can prove specific claims about god to be wrong, (such as, cancer patients who unknowingly receive prayers have a higher survival rate that those who do not) but the fact...
  15. Ceridwen018

    Does science prove the existence of god?

    I think we're misunderstanding each other. I'm not saying that atoms popped into existence the moment they were discovered by humans, obviously. I am saying that with the way science works it does not deal with things for which there is no evidence, and therefore, as far as science is...
  16. Ceridwen018

    Creating Life

    Um, well...they can. Scientists can "create" organic molecules from inorganic molecules. By "create," I mean that they put all the necessry components (water, CO(2), Nitrogen, and some heat) together in a lab and then just watch it all react. They also have a pretty good idea how those...
  17. Ceridwen018

    The Prodigal Son and Satan

    Satan can't be forgiven because that would ruin the whole good/evil, ying/yang, light/darkness contrast that every religion/western movie needs to stay interesting.
  18. Ceridwen018

    Does science prove the existence of god?

    According to the scientific method, that's exactly what I'm saying. That's what discovery is all about: finding evidence for something where previously there was no evidence. The way science works is that scientists write down observations of the natural world, hypothesize as to how...
  19. Ceridwen018

    Do you believe that Jesus was born on December 25th?

    I'd sooner ask my lucky 8 ball than a stigmatist. At least my lucky 8 ball isn't trying to lie to me for attention.
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