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  1. Qumran

    Why So Many "First" Churches?...

    Thank you ALL!! Maybe we could all ban together and start the "First Church of Religious Forums of Semi-ascended, Ascended and Not Quite So Ascended Masters"...!! :)
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    Why So Many "First" Churches?...

    Hello all, I have a question I hope someone can answer, please. I have always found it curious that so many churches have the word "First" in their title or on the church sign. For example; "First Congregational Church of..." (VERY common) or "First Gospel Church of..." Can anyone tell...
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    Pagan Blogs

    ecauldron.com LOTS of debate there. Also they have members of many different ideologies. Very interesting. mysticwicks.com Mostly younger crowd but it has its place and not nearly as contentious or debate intensive as others I've seen.
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    Things the Bible does not say

    I never suggested this experience was for God or for his benefit. "Necessary".??? .. Your post seems to suggest that God's plan required man to fall and fail to be obedient for the whole 'Jesus as savior' thing to happen. Did Adam ever have a choice to obey and succeed if his fall was...
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    Things the Bible does not say

    We agree on so many points in your post. Instead of reading ONLY the words and meaning that is there, many people want to see more than the words say - they become masters at reading BETWEEN the lines...problem is...they are not very good at READING THE LINES themselves! On a slightly...
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    Please help me!

    YW... Aqualung reminded me of my manners... WELCOME!! Hope you find us all warm and fuzzy!
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    Please help me!

    :) Never a problem Aqualung.... your answers were just as accurate as mine and a HELL of a lot shorter! I was a JW for a Loooong time...not anymore though.. (Yippeee :bounce )
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    Please help me!

    There is no specific year requirement with regard to WHEN a couple may marry. I suspect it is she who is stipulating 6 years - Not JW's. From the official JW point of view, a couple is not supposed to live together as a couple BEFORE marriage. Period. Even engaged couples are not permitted to...
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    adam and eve (incest)

    You may be right about it being figurative or allegorical, but, as I am sure you already know, the Bible account states it as though it were literally true. Genesis 2:23- "This at last bone of my bones and flesh of my flesh. This one will be called woman because from man this one was...
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    Things the Bible does not say

    BRAVO!! Love your post. Shows your mental wheels are turning. Unfortunatly, LOTS of people may take issue with your questions. (Though I am not one of them) ;)
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    Things the Bible does not say

    The Bible does not say the "forbidden fruit" in the garden of Eden was an apple. It does not specify what kind of fruit it was. The Bible does not say "God helps he who helps themselves." The Bible does not say "Money is the root of all evil." That's 3 to get you started! :bounce
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    The Great Flood

    I was simply saying that since none of us (people alive today) were there, we do not have first hand knowledge of what happened. None of us were with Noah as eye witnesses. Neither were we people living in another part of the world to have observed that Noah's flood was a global phenomenon...
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    Does anyone ever have the right to harm someone else?

    LOL.... Love the example you give. I agree. "Good" and "bad" is frequently a matter of viewpoint and perspective. Of course, the religious may assert that God establishes a Universal standard of right and wrong, good and bad - I am not disputing that in this post (that's for another post.) -...
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    The Great Flood

    ????...When did I say that? I made no reference to what THEY did or did not know. I said I could neither confirm nor deny that a global flood occured based upon the evidence WE have now. Agreed.
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    The Great Flood

    Your post seems to be good-natured so I will respond in the same good spirit. Would just like to clarify a thing or two... As I said before..I was commenting, NOT debating. There's a difference. Because I think it contributed to the discussion. After all, the thread starter asked if she...
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    The Great Flood

    What I mean is this: None of us were there, so unless I see conclusive evidence that a GLOBAL flood did NOT occur (not the shallow arguments I've seen here so far), it would be foolish on my part to take an inflexible, dogmatic position on this subject. Granted, looking at the Bible account...
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    Does anyone ever have the right to harm someone else?

    John 2:15: "So, after making a whip of ropes, he (Jesus) drove all those with the sheep and cattle out of the temple, and he poured out the coins of the money changers and overturned their tables." Revelation 19:11-16: "And I saw the heavens opened, and look! A white horse. And the one...
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    Bush nominates Miers

    AGREED. Can I add a few more 'very, very, very' worrieds? :help:
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    The Great Flood

    My post was not made by way of debate. In order for a debate to happen you have to have opposing views with people giving their arguments pro and con. I have taken no position on the Noah's flood debate. YOU folks can debate your brains out if you like. I prefer to stay out of it. My post...
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    Bush nominates Miers

    In my view, yes. It is also a clever choice since Mier was never a judge and so has little or no judicial record to attack. Like roberts, Mier could claim anything she ever did or said as a lawyer was at her client's behest- not her opinions at all. Hey, why change a winning tactic? This...
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