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  1. Rival

    Happy birthday John53

    Have a great one!
  2. Rival

    What Trinitarian churches teach about the Trinity

    I'm not sure I understand; it's the best understanding we have. It's recited in the churches on certain days.
  3. Rival

    Get Born Again...

    I don't believe so. I believe baptism is needful first, then a kind of ongoing repentance.
  4. Rival

    Vatican Blasts Trans Surgery, Surogacy, Etc

    There is a large Catholic minority in the US though, and they're one of the largest churchgoing denominations here in the UK. I think the issue is that many of them tend to stick to Catholic fora. In my attempt to find a forum where Catholics and Protestants get along in oecumenical dialogue, I...
  5. Rival

    What Trinitarian churches teach about the Trinity

    The Athanasian Creed.
  6. Rival

    Vatican Blasts Trans Surgery, Surogacy, Etc

    So why? It's affects them none. It's an excuse.
  7. Rival

    Vatican Blasts Trans Surgery, Surogacy, Etc

    This whole thread seems to be a pile-on RCs. I didn't realise so many hated them for generally just being Catholics. It's absurd. Where are all the pro-Catholics, exactly? RF is a liberal hive and that means it tends to pile on conservative Catholics. It's saddening.
  8. Rival

    Vatican Blasts Trans Surgery, Surogacy, Etc

    This is true, but not the content of the OP.
  9. Rival

    Vatican Blasts Trans Surgery, Surogacy, Etc

    Honestly lol. You need to come to Europe. No-one gives a flying **** what the Vatican has to say. I have no clue where you guys are taking this garbage from. Obviously the Vatican believes what is has is universal truth, that's the whole point of the religion. They have no means or concept of...
  10. Rival

    Vatican Blasts Trans Surgery, Surogacy, Etc

    Read all about it! Roman Catholic Church upholds Roman Catholic teachings! Read all about it! Non Catholics upset the Church isn't as liberal as they are! Somehow believe a conspiracy that the RCC controls global policy! Get it here!
  11. Rival

    Happy Birthday ChristineM!

    Have a great day!
  12. Rival

    Its not euthanasia, its suicide.

    I'm not lucky; I took charge of my own life with the help of both medication and lifestyle changes, changing my outlook and environment. Everyone is capable of this if he has reason.
  13. Rival

    Its not euthanasia, its suicide.

    As I've said before: this doesn't matter. She is living her life. She is progressing. She is fine. For **** sake, almost everyone in history had it harder than her, poor thing.
  14. Rival

    Its not euthanasia, its suicide.

    I do, I do live with endless emotional turmoil with my own mood disorder; and I have considered killing myself several times. But here I am.
  15. Rival

    Its not euthanasia, its suicide.

    We are discussing the OP; she has 3 conditions that many people live with. They can be managed effectively if one is willing to try. She can take steps to mitigate that suffering instead of her seeming to wallow in it. She's not exactly suffering shell shock and facing the trauma of watching all...
  16. Rival

    Its not euthanasia, its suicide.

    My goodness you folks make out like the conditions she has are somehow like the mental illness version of childbirth. There are many more people who live with these conditions and are able to live normal lives if given the right kind of help.
  17. Rival

    Its not euthanasia, its suicide.

    I just wonder when someone with a spouse, a home, a pet, a job and her health thinks death would be better. This makes absolutely no sense. She has the will and reasoning skills to deal with her metal issues and imo is choosing not to.
  18. Rival

    Its not euthanasia, its suicide.

    Folks here keep saying this as though it matters. She's up and running, she has a boyfriend, she has a home, pets, her health and presumably a job. I strongly suspect she's not suffering all that much given she seems to be able to run her life well enough.
  19. Rival

    Its not euthanasia, its suicide.

    If someone in his late 20s believes he has no more chance at a fulfilling life, I think that person has incredibly poor reflection skills or is expecting things to be better immediately. She seems to want to quit before 30, when she's barely even lived, so I think she needs to do a whole lot...
  20. Rival

    Its not euthanasia, its suicide.

    Do levels matter? If we both had the same illness we would rate our suffering differently given we are different people. She can change her outlook as many formerly suicidal people have, but she lives in a society that tells her happiness is the ultimate goal, and no-one can reach that. If you...
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