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    The presumption of humanism- covenant morality for humanity

    The presumption of humanism requires us to use reason and facts rather than those arbitrary commands of religion. It presumes that consequences, good and bad, for humans, other animals and the environment ground morality rather than God as Plato exhumes in the Euthyphro.It is objective in that...
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    arguments about God and the presumption of naturalism and the ignostic-Ockham

    The presumption of naturalism is that not only are natural causes and explanations efficient but also necessary, primary and sufficient. Against Gottfried Wihlem leibniz, they are the sufficient reason. This neither begs the question nor sandbags theists as it reflects the demand for evidence as...
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    the definitive disproof of the free will excuse

    :yes: As God has free will and can do no wrong and is not the Supreme Robot, it necessariy follows that neither would we be robots had we free will and could not do wrong,too. It is only special pleading to argue otherwise.A good parent puts children into good places and does not test them in...
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    the two category fallacy-theistic evolution debunked

    :yes: :cold: Teleology implies preordainded goals and purposes;causalism-natural causes - find no such matters "[T]eleology explains an end state by simply asserting it given at the beginning.And thereby in putting the future into the past, the effect before the cause,teleology,negates...
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    the two category fallacy-failed theistic evolution

    :yes: From the side of religion, one can indeed be a theistic evolutionist; from the side of science and philosophy theistic evolution is an oxymororn.:help: It depends on teleology which assumes goals and preordination whereas causalism-natural cause- show no such things. " End states are...
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    the ignostic and Occam arguments

    :yes: As an ignostic, I find no meaning for the term God; it is just fatuous. It is a mystery surrounded by other mysteries backed by a series of guesses withoug an empirical base, mere word play.It " hides our ignorance behind a theological fig leaf," and to further quote atheologist Keith...
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