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    Rejection of Science is Evil

    It's not intentional- it's just the truth. Sometimes the truth is hard to hear. The common definition is what it is, and minority view points don't change that. I will say that I'm cheering you on as you fight to broaden the definition of 'god' to be more inclusive of (perhaps) more rational...
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    Rejection of Science is Evil

    Yes, he generally knew better than to just throw the term around willy nilly without clarifying. But even so, he got plenty of people assigning him beliefs despite his clarity that he didn't hold them. How many fundamentalist Christians claim him as presenting their theodicy to an atheist...
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    Rejection of Science is Evil

    :facepalm: Somebody didn't do his or her homework. The U.S.A. is remarkably homogenous by world standards. Statistics on Religion in America Report -- Pew Forum on Religion & Public Life The majority is either Christian 78.4% (among which there is an underwheming margin of meaningful...
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    Rejection of Science is Evil

    I don't agree with ignore functions; though I think it's reasonable that the original poster can define the topic and tone (e.g. polite, or no holds barred)- I'd like to see more forums do that rather than assume everybody has skin like tissue paper (it is done occasionally). My point was just...
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    Objective morality

    I don't fail to do it; I elect not to bother, because your understanding is too far off base for you to understand my arguments from where you are (the greatest obstacle to learning is not what you don't know, but what you think you know- and you have claimed to know quite a bit which is false...
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    Rejection of Science is Evil

    Obviously. Whereas I started this thread and am still watching it, and whereas this is a public forum, I have the right to respond when somebody says something absurd or bigoted.
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    Rejection of Science is Evil

    It was still taking place until our prophet, Charles Darwin (Peace be upon him), observed evolution, thus causing the quantum physics evolution wave to collapse. So, now that the wave is collapsed, things aren't evolving anymore. Except bacteria and viruses, since they're small enough that...
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    Rejection of Science is Evil

    I don't think it's fair to criticize that- it's a reasonable understanding. Culture defines language- if it's a different concept entirely, it should be linguistically distinct. The only faulty assumption you were making is that other people were being HONEST when they talked about 'god'-...
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    Objective morality

    :facepalm: Your logical fallacy is appeal to authority Your post proved otherwise. You have clearly been mis-educated on the topic. Forget what you thought you knew, and try again. Utilitarianism has a key logical flaw (which is why I am not a Utilitarian), but you did not correctly...
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    Objective morality

    That is addressed. Please read more carefully. You may also see my thread on why rejection of science is evil. I've covered this issue. No, I don't negate it- I confirm it. I merely deny it as a source of morality. It is certainly a relevant factor in application. There must be a goal...
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    Rejection of Science is Evil

    I will refer you to the same link: CA201: Only a theory There are evolutionary theories, and there is the fact of evolution. There are theories of how the Earth formed, and there is the fact of the Earth's shape (that some people mistake this does not negate it). I'm glad to answer...
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    Rejection of Science is Evil

    Yes, and the answers to all of your questions are on this website: An Index to Creationist Claims If you have any questions that are not answered there, then I will answer them for you (I only say this because I am 99% certain that you could not come up with a question that is not already...
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    Rejection of Science is Evil

    Your post indicates a complete misunderstanding of science and logic. I see that you do not agree with or respect truth after all, just dogma. :( If you have a will to learn, you should read this: An Index to Creationist Claims If you have any questions that are not answered there, I will...
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    Rejection of Science is Evil

    Sorry, I might have been unclear. It's always a huge problem- it always means the concept at hand which would violate logic is necessarily false. Any true contradiction yields logical explosion, which invalidates all of logic and coherent reality itself. Contradictions aren't allowed in...
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    Rejection of Science is Evil

    The god you defined is illogical- you expressed three mutually exclusive visions and maintained that they are all true; this is a contradiction (a violation of logic). Illogic can only be understood by logic to be proof of falsehood. Twice I have proved your concept of deity false using logic...
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    Rejection of Science is Evil

    Well, that is very different. You shouldn't use the bad translation "religion", instead more literally translate it as: Eternal truth, or Eternal knowledge. I could agree with that, but I can't agree with 'religion' ;) That is fine. But this is not: There is no 'god', that's an illogical...
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    Objective morality

    That was both extremely rude, and illogical. You're attacking a straw man, and doing it with phenomenal malice. I'm sure anybody reading this can see how rational you're being in this conversation. I won't expect you to respond further. Indeed, after that comment, I'd rather you didn't...
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    Rejection of Science is Evil

    I would say that morality can be a quality of a person/soul (if we're to use the word), but religion is defined: Even as vague as the first definition is, it contains quite a bit of baggage and implies specific dogmas. Well, maybe that would be a better definition, but that is not the...
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    Rejection of Science is Evil

    Oh, I see we miscommunicated there a bit. I'm talking about true morality- which is objective/absolute, and is based on logic: like mathematics. A morality which is up to individual preference isn't a real morality, because personal preference is the natural default. It would make the term...
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    Rejection of Science is Evil

    In a logical discussion, it certainly doesn't. He doesn't understand it, so he is committing the fallacy of argument from personal incredulity. It's funny that he's accusing you of all of these fallacies, a few of which may be arguable, and yet commits at least one himself. ;) What concerns...
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