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  1. meddlehaze

    The Debate of God.

    Wouldn't logical truths precede logic, being that they are transcendent? And how does this prove logic precedes God?
  2. meddlehaze

    Debate: If God exists, why does God allow so much suffering?

    Or maybe you might be mistaking egotism with justice. I think it's egotistical only when the person puts themselves as more righteous than the other person for their personal morale. However, the Christian takes no credit for his moral standard because it did not come from his "inherent sense"...
  3. meddlehaze

    The Debate of God.

    That is very ambiguous, please be specific. How can logic establish anything? In my perception, it is merely a tool to discover already established absolutes.
  4. meddlehaze

    The Debate of God.

    Correct me if I'm wrong, but you seem to posit that God's attributes are established by logic rather than discovered. Is that correct?
  5. meddlehaze

    The Debate of God.

    How so?
  6. meddlehaze

    Why doesn't the Bible mention.............

    Your conclusions seem to presuppose an unintelligent, non-intervening or non-existent God. Do you read Plato? Do you read Nietzsche? Do you come up with your own writings? Do your own writings become false in 2000 years? Record is record.
  7. meddlehaze

    The Debate of God.

    Nothing, it wasn't an argument. I just was establishing facts. Without an objective, transcendent Mind, no human can justifiably claim that any logic is absolute. He is Himself. He has characteristics which I believe He has revealed. God is an metaphysical entity, who thinks and acts according...
  8. meddlehaze

    The Debate of God.

    3) Logic cannot exist without a human mind. This is philosophy, not science :p I meant to say logic instead of logical absolutes**
  9. meddlehaze

    Debate: If God exists, why does God allow so much suffering?

    I think you're missing the point. These people who experience "unnecessary suffering" exist to be delivered whether that be spiritually, physically or both. I am one who experiences suffering, yet I endure miraculously through the strength of God's Spirit who dwells in me and give Him praise...
  10. meddlehaze

    The Debate of God.

    Existence is not. Logical absolutes (the laws) are discovered by logic (or correct, mindful thought), which is a process of the mind. It seems my argument has been convoluted due to our previous dialogue. I will clarify the premises and conclusion from the very beginning. 1) Without God...
  11. meddlehaze

    Debate: If God exists, why does God allow so much suffering?

    Praise to Him, not as though He needed it, but that we need it. No, His glory isn't based on the unnecessary suffering of others. Ahh, but morals vary from person-to-person. How can one say they really have morals?
  12. meddlehaze

    Why can't I go to heaven?

    Without proof?! The fact that anyone believes is a miracle. I don't need to perform miracles to be a Christian. That word was first coined by the apostle Paul in Koine Greek. Which was Χριστιανός - meaning - a follower of Christ I...
  13. meddlehaze

    The Debate of God.

    What I mean by that is, God is not bound by the laws of the universe as part of His existence. I thought we did with my comments about logic being a process of the mind. I don't think I ever said logic itself is transcendent. My claim is that logical absolutes are transcendent. They are not...
  14. meddlehaze

    Why can't I go to heaven?

    If you're going to combat Christianity with Western perspective of Greek words, yes. Otherwise, it's fallacious.
  15. meddlehaze

    Debate: If God exists, why does God allow so much suffering?

    His glory.
  16. meddlehaze

    Debate: If God exists, why does God allow so much suffering?

    Those who disbelieve cannot possibly be His children then.
  17. meddlehaze

    The Debate of God.

    Okay. For the sake of conversation we can say this is true, at this point. With that information, we must conclude that there was a first cause. If this uncaused first cause is transcendent, is it really dependent on the laws of the universe to exist? It caused the laws, mindfully (as we have...
  18. meddlehaze

    Why can't I go to heaven?

    This depends on which faith you speak of. If you are referring to Christian faith, you should probably look at the way the Biblical writers defined the word rather than 1st century English translators. Greek/Hebrew/Aramaic/English define words very differently. Let's take a look at the...
  19. meddlehaze

    The Debate of God.

    The first one yes, through study of cosmology one will come to realize the universe has a beginning. (law of entropy, decay, etc.) However, through the philosophy of God one will come to realize He had no beginning and has no end, for He is eternal. Thus, needing no account for His existence.
  20. meddlehaze

    Debate: If God exists, why does God allow so much suffering?

    Best; accomplishes what He had intended (fellowship with His children) with absolute and full effectiveness and appropriateness.
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