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  1. J

    Prop 8 in California

    I just want to apologize to anyone who was hurt by this for saying it. I really didn't mean it and it was out of a lot of frustration.
  2. J

    Are you DONE with Prop 8 Discussion?

    My heart wants to stop, but I have no self control. Please someone - distract me!
  3. J

    Stake/Ward vs. Mission

    I really wish they would "upgrade the standard" of converts. There are so many "former Mormons" and you know that 90% of them were not Mormon long enough to dry off from the baptism.
  4. J

    Stake/Ward vs. Mission

    The "trump card" that Bishops can play is the confirmation. The mission has no control over when that occurs.
  5. J

    Homosexuals Banned from Giving Blood

    Ha! Don't worry - they changed the rules and will let me know. My blood is clean. :D
  6. J

    Homosexuals Banned from Giving Blood

    I couldn't give blood for a few years because I had lived in Germany. I believe they were worried about mad cow disease in my case.
  7. J

    Riots in LA and Temple Square over Prop 8

    You can't compare the women's rights and civil rights movement to gay rights. Being a women or black isn't a choice. Living a gay lifestyle is.
  8. J

    Who likes Homestar Runner?

    I used to be a huge fan and watched it all the time. I haven't checked it out in years. Are they still making new ones?
  9. J

    Multiple Church Leaders Condemn Bigoted Ad Against California Proposition 8

    The difference is that it wasn't one person. I've been defending gay marriage to my Mormon friends and Mormons to my gay friends for months. I'm sick of hearing people call my friends and family bigots and homophobes - especially since these people have refused to listen to the "pro Prop 8"...
  10. J

    Multiple Church Leaders Condemn Bigoted Ad Against California Proposition 8

    The damage is done. Not by you, but by the movement itself. I might come around to supporting them again, but not anytime soon. For the time being, my mantra is "you're on your own."
  11. J

    Multiple Church Leaders Condemn Bigoted Ad Against California Proposition 8

    I can't. PM a mod about it if you have any questions.
  12. J

    Multiple Church Leaders Condemn Bigoted Ad Against California Proposition 8

    I participate in another forum more than here and I've supported it extensively. Anyone here who participates there can vouch for that.
  13. J

    Multiple Church Leaders Condemn Bigoted Ad Against California Proposition 8

    Isn't that what politics are all about? We got this constitution thing in the 1700s and people have been changing it and creating laws based on it ever since to force people to conform to their view of how the world should be. This isn't anything new. I honestly don't care if gay people can get...
  14. J

    Multiple Church Leaders Condemn Bigoted Ad Against California Proposition 8

    Yeah. The proposition amended the constitution, so the protection is no longer there. I was against it, but came around in the last 24 hours (in large part thanks to the video in this thread).
  15. J

    Prop 8 in California

    Oh great and mighty feral philosopher. Please teach me your wisdom. I've never heard of this thing you call the "civil war." Please elaborate.
  16. J

    Multiple Church Leaders Condemn Bigoted Ad Against California Proposition 8

    No, they rejected gay marriage. You can frame it however you want, but that doesn't change the truth.
  17. J

    Multiple Church Leaders Condemn Bigoted Ad Against California Proposition 8

    No, but they are attacking my friends, family, and church, which is what ended my support for their cause.
  18. J

    Multiple Church Leaders Condemn Bigoted Ad Against California Proposition 8

    Do you know what else is true? Californians rejected gay marriage. Are you laughing about that?
  19. J

    Multiple Church Leaders Condemn Bigoted Ad Against California Proposition 8

    I think it's funny that gay people want to get married. Most everyone I know who is married would rather be single.
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