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    Koran:...Jesus is the Son...

    Rotflol...:thud: You don't define classic Arabic with a modern English dictionary. You downloaded Lane's Lexicon...now use it... Now you see for yourself that the outward English renderings are nothing without an exegesis to back it up. You can see that we provide an exegesis...
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    Koran:...Jesus is the Son...

    Your googled response is not even close. إن مثل عيسى عند الله كمثل ءادم خلقه من ترا&#1576...
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    What happened to the plants during Noah’s flood?

    We are not promoting a global flood....but a local flood. The water covering the earth's surface occured during its formation....this is not part of the genesis great flood...
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    What happened to the plants during Noah’s flood?

    In numerous Biblical instances, the Hebrew "Kol erets" indicates a local vicinity... Not even close to covering the globe... Who ever siad that it did...? It came from the earth...and went back to the earth... Hence it was a local flood...and not a global one...not enough water for a...
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    What happened to the plants during Noah’s flood?

    The Holy Bible tells us that mankind will never be eliminated by another great flood....so no, there would be no reason to blame God... And....? Actually, the Holy Bible states that the entire earth's surface was covered in water...same as modern science is now also confirming...and...
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    What happened to the plants during Noah’s flood?

    A careful reading of the Genesis flood account (and others) leads us to believe that the flood was local, and not global, in extent. The purpose of the great flood was to extinguish reprobate mankind...and since mankind was localized within a relatively small area, there would have been no...
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    Koran:...Jesus is the Son...

    It proves everything for our position. Since you can't be bothered with the Arabic...how exactly would you even know...?:rolleyes: Just as in 4.171...it clearly defines Jesus as the Son. Period. Now you are getting it... To Jesus' Will. Not quite. 2.116 & 2.117 are...
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    Koran:...Jesus is the Son...

    Since you are unable to bring forth the Arabic words "if"...or "should"....in 4.171...I think that it is safe to say that you have no case. let's look... وقالوا اتخذ الله ولد&#1575...
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    Koran:...Jesus is the Son...

    If you believe this, then you should be able to demonstrate exactly where it was supossedly "taken out of context"... Go ahead and show us... Since you acknowledge that the original Arabic contains no (!) or (?) markings...where exactly would be your evidence for your your position that it...
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    Koran:...Jesus is the Son...

    Looks like our friend is having great difficulty finding the Arabic words "if"..or "should"..in 4.171...:clap
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    Koran:...Jesus is the Son...

    Google us a link... What quote...? Where was this...? Have you gone back and read from the beggining of this thread...perhaps you need to... Hence...the proclamation that Jesuus is his Son. This ayaha does not contain any negatives at all to do with Jesus...only...
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    Koran:...Jesus is the Son...

    Perhaps you need to go back to the first page of this thread...where the very first words are in Arabic. Perhaps you could then show us the scholar you are referring to... After you have comprehended this, then perhaps you could actually advance to the next step...and that would be to refute...
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    Koran:...Jesus is the Son...

    Please bring forth your exegetical reasoning... Let's see your exegetical reasoning....something more than googling ayahs would be a nice touch...:yes: Let's have some feedback from your Arabic speaking friends...
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    Koran:...Jesus is the Son...

    This would be up to you to demonstrate for us... Where...? Arberry is one (of three) mainstream renderings quoted as supporting the classic Arabic which states that Jesus is his Son in 4.171....and, as such, was exegetically demonstrated to be correct. No other portion of Arberry (or the...
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    Koran:...Jesus is the Son...

    You did not show us the Arabic word rendered as "no more than"...you simply googled a popular English rendering. We would be most interested if you could somehow produce the Arabic word rendered as "no more than"...in 4.171... Adam was never considered deity. Jesus is....in both the Holy...
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    Koran:...Jesus is the Son...

    So is the rebuttal...:)
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