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    Science and the Bible

    That part of the book of Isaiah was written in the 6th century as most probably was the Book of Job.
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    Abuse in "Christian" Marriages

    I think it may be higher among born-again Christians than main stream, mostly because of a theology which encourages "submission" on the part of women. How our theological narratives can reinforce abuse
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    The Insignificance of Gilgamesh

    Except the Epic is written a thousand years before the biblical account. When you focus on the historicity of the biblical account you are missing the point anyhow. In some ways Genesis is saying "no" to the Babylonian myths by assigning them entirely new meanings.
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    How do you be a Christian when the Bible is so faulty?

    By recognizing that ultimately it is Jesus who is the Word of God, not a book.
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    Have you read the whole Bible?

    I've read it all, but not all at one time. I've read the New Testament many times, four times before I turned 15 and became a Baha'i. The Old Testament I didn't read until I was 18. I read it when I babysat in hotels during the summer. There are parts of it like Isaiah I've read many times but...
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    The Downfall And Lies Of A Biased Liberal And Atheist Websource -- Wikipedia

    I doubt very much that corporations are paying people to write Wiki articles but I'll be happy to examine your proof for this. It may be that scientists who work for these companies write some of those articles, but then they are the experts. ... "5) Jimmy Wales is a key operator of the...
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    The Downfall And Lies Of A Biased Liberal And Atheist Websource -- Wikipedia

    Do you seriously think academics think more highly of Conservapedia? Truth is, overall, Wiki is nearly as reliable as Britannica. Academics go on wikipedia all the time to write and edit articles. The problem is that you don't have to be an academic to write there, because it is an open source...
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    Abraham Father of Many Nations

    Wouldn't it be nice if the followers of Abrahamic religions would celebrate what we share in common in a thread such as this, rather than what drives us apart? What does the Qur'an have to say about Christians? "thou wilt surely find the nearest of them in love to the believers are those who...
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    Abraham Father of Many Nations

    Well, three quarters of the world's population believe in a religion which is clearly part of the Abrahamic family. And given that Abraham had sons through another wife Katurah, that were sent eastward whose to say other religions don't go back to Abraham as well?
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    Is religion based on fear? (not what you think)

    Sure we do. The evidence is called fossils and now we can add DNA to the evidence.
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    Is religion based on fear? (not what you think)

    Uh, how about an Atomic Weapon? Technology and science are simply tools. It is our values which tell us what to do with them, and religion if it is to serve any purpose at all, must inform our values. There is a Baha'i document which I think best expresses the ideal relationship between science...
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    Is religion based on fear? (not what you think)

    Fundamentalists always seem to want to label any scientific discovery that contradicts their religious beliefs (as with evolution) or their right-wring political beliefs (as with Climate Change) as pseudo-science. Sorry, but pseudo-science is stuff like so-called "Scientific-Creationism" or...
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    Pagan origins of Islam

    It is a coincidence, but I was going to mention that many Muslims believe this to be the case. Muslims have also equated Zoroaster and Abraham at times based on similar stories of both been thrown into the fire and not burning. Whether such associations are true or not, it points to the fact...
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    Pagan origins of Islam

    No, it is not. There is no linguistically useful sense in which any language spoken today is "older" than any other. What we can ask is which languages have retain more elements of their ancient language? The answer is most likely whichever languages have been the most isolated. I would say...
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    Pagan origins of Islam

    Indeed. When the Arabs invaded Sindh, the Brahmans told them that the Vedas were the oldest scriptures. Muslims then figured that Adam must have wrote them. According to the Qur'an there is no people to whom a prophet has not been sent so the default has always been to accept the divine origin...
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    Pagan origins of Islam

    One could argue that all monotheistic religions have pagan (or polytheistic) origins. Both the Arabic Allah and the Hebrew Eloh have their origins in El who was part of the Canaanite pantheon. Likewise Yahweh was originally part of that pantheon. The English word "God" is also pagan in its...
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    Pagan origins of Islam

    Muslims don't really care who you think should be regarded as people of the Book. Ali included them, and that is enough for most Muslims.
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    Pagan origins of Islam

    I think I'll let Muslims decide what Muslims think if it is alright with you. Muslims don't use the word pagan. That's a Christian label.
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    Pagan origins of Islam

    By the way, shirk , or joining partners with God is the greatest sin Islam. Pagan is not a word Muslims use.
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    Pagan origins of Islam

    I suppose that depends on what you mean by pagans. The term pagan is derived from the Latin Paganus which meant something like a country bumpkin. It was applied to polytheist because generally speaking monotheistic religions like Christianity and Islam spread first in the urban areas, whereas...
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