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    Humans are like robots. Choice is determined.

    The argument for the "humans are machines" is that all brain activity resolves to neural interaction that is governed by physics. The notion of consciousness or awareness doesn't define itself well as a physical effects or measurements of electrical or chemical processes. So how can awareness...
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    Humans are like robots. Choice is determined.

    Ah...I hate to break this to you, and again this is another example of how you seem to lack some experiences, like “Ah Ha” moments, that most other people have, but the effects of pheromones are very real with humans. That you aren’t aware of this is very suspicious, are you a robot? :biglaugh...
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    Humans are like robots. Choice is determined.

    All that could be needed is for the neuron to generate a single spike which explains why slow switching neurons can function within time frames suitable for real time applications. The precise moments of neurons firing is not as necessary as one might think. An example is the simulation...
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    Humans are like robots. Choice is determined.

    Again you’ve taken things out of context to discredit an idea you don't understand. The whole point of my statement was that it IS A GENERIC MECHANISM FOR NON GENETIC ADAPTION! Can't you READ? The sensory system is GENETICALLY CODED! The sensory system preprocess information into components that...
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    Humans are like robots. Choice is determined.

    Just as a test Legion what do I claim is innate?
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    Humans are like robots. Choice is determined.

    Ah.. you can't say the brain isn't sorting through information, nor calculating probabilities, you have no evidence to make that claim and in fact you claim no one has any clue as to how the brain processes information! But many animals do calculate a risk to reward analysis so probabilities...
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    Humans are like robots. Choice is determined.

    Legion...Why are you taking things out of context? I clearly said monitoring neurons in vivo. The best that can be done today requires surgery and its not effective at collecting large samples, as in thousands or millions of neurons. The researcher's book is titled "Rethinking Innateness", what...
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    Humans are like robots. Choice is determined.

    And you still don't get it, I called it an idea. Its an approach that can be coded for a machine to understand and create choices not just based on logic but qualities of experiences and that is the point. But to digress, remember Einstein or was it Bohr that had the problem with the cell phone...
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    Humans are like robots. Choice is determined.

    You still aren't getting the idea...the reward is emotional gratification generated from the limbic system or the sensory system, its irrelevant if there's a food cache or not! The neurology could generate the signaling based on past experiences or current stimuli, inclusive of just exercising...
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    Humans are like robots. Choice is determined.

    You see, you really don't understand the idea proposed. What is proposed is that the memory of experiences have qualities of emotional gratification as do sensory systems. The learning described in the experiment you cite would be explained as the rat’s sensory system and/or memory of...
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    Humans are like robots. Choice is determined.

    Again you don't understand the idea proposed. You keep confusing it with some ancient idea that never described a competitive arbitration system involving the limbic and sensory systems signaling that quantifies emotional gratification in grades of positive to negative states that resolves...
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    Humans are like robots. Choice is determined.

    Actually using Google to get results from the topics in Jeopardy, as they're written on the boards, works! Within in the first page you get a relevant answer.
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    is space travel ethical?

    Why are the manned space missions...well disappointing and yet the robotic space program flourishes? Because sending squishy water bags that poop in their diapers is a bad idea! NASA should focus on robotic space exploration only. In addition the only manned space effort should focus on...
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    Humans are like robots. Choice is determined.

    And there is a Santa Claus and he has flying reindeer and if you been good he'll come down your chimney and give you a gift. Tell me the weight or size of the theme of any book. No it doesn't! But to put things in perspective how about we go back in time and we let Einstein figure out how...
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    Humans are like robots. Choice is determined.

    This kind of approach makes for great pseudo science: "The neuron is the little black box no one can figure out, so little leprechauns live there and make everything happen!" :biglaugh: Again...Your problem is the approach. Working with a generic form of meaning allows the use of another kind...
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    Humans are like robots. Choice is determined.

    Non-local effects of digital computers exists as well. Mulit-core cpus, physics processors, graphic processors all work in coordination from non local effects of the thematic or high level objective of the software! Non-locality can even be observed in single cpus! The location of what software...
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    Humans are like robots. Choice is determined.

    More hyperbole Legion? Come on you're better than this...:facepalm: You didn't read the individual studies you just read the first paragraph. And you still don't get the phrase: "relative to a conceptual(knowledge) framework." Nor how it can become more sophisticated. So keep :banghead3 you...
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    Humans are like robots. Choice is determined.

    Legion you don't understand the whole issue of "meaning" from a non-anthropocentric basis. In the link all the studies have to do with my notion of "meaning" which is machine useable. :cool: That you cite or claim the giants of computer science, machine learning and neuro science have no better...
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    Humans are like robots. Choice is determined.

    Ah...not really from what you describe. You must not be able to read. In any case I knew you would answer the way you did which is why I said the work is being done by those with "right frame of mind", meaning "perspective"...:p Strawman argument, if MIT or Havard can't think of it then...
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    Humans are like robots. Choice is determined.

    Sounds very productive and I'm right you are far from building anything remotely ressembling AI. Here are some working with the right frame of mind: NYU Computer Science Department > Machine Learning and Knowledge Representation
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