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  1. e.r.m.

    Catholic Church is more Biblical than Protestantism!

    Thank you for sharing.
  2. e.r.m.

    Catholic Church is more Biblical than Protestantism!

    To heaven. Matthew 19:14 But Jesus said, "Let the children alone, and do not hinder them from coming to Me; for the kingdom of heaven belongs to such as these." Oh, and original sin is not scriptural either. I'm aware of how the tradition works. Not early enough. The earliest did as the...
  3. e.r.m.

    Catholic Church is more Biblical than Protestantism!

    For example Jesus said Matthew 28:19 Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, Luke 24:46-47 Then He said to them, "Thus it is written, and thus it was necessary for the Christ to suffer and to rise from...
  4. e.r.m.

    Catholic Church is more Biblical than Protestantism!

    Agreed. And catholic teachings do seem to change that of earlier teachings.
  5. e.r.m.

    Catholic Church is more Biblical than Protestantism!

    I meant the latter.
  6. e.r.m.

    Catholic Church is more Biblical than Protestantism!

    I understood on both points, but thank you. What I have to process is the idea of the ongoing counsel of the Holy Spirit as a justification of changing things from the scriptures as time goes by.
  7. e.r.m.

    Catholic Church is more Biblical than Protestantism!

    Primarly, I was endeavoring with InChrist to draw her attention to the Bible. I maintain that infant baptism is not "Biblical". Catholic justifications are done outside the Bible (e.g.-church accomodating to the plague and such). There is not a Biblical precedence for the ongoing authority of...
  8. e.r.m.

    "Men and brethren, what shall we do?"

    You didn't address the passage Acts 22:16 You asked Do you believe that a person is not saved by faith/ belief in Jesus Christ as their Savior, but that they must be baptized to actually have salvation? Isn't that what Acts 22:16 said, since Saul had believed in and confessed the Lord Jesus...
  9. e.r.m.

    "Men and brethren, what shall we do?"

    Part 2 Did you read my responses to these in my previous posts? Please re-read and respond. Before I answer this, I had stated earlier "It is not contrary to any written text in the Bible. It is contrary to the commentaries about and additions to the scriptures by the "by grace alone, through...
  10. e.r.m.

    "Men and brethren, what shall we do?"

    Part 1 I explained John 21:19-22, please re-read. There are things like critical thinking, exegesis, hermenuetics, which help scrutinize whether one's current belief is valid as opposed to just what they have bought into. Hebrews 9:16-18 relates to the timing of the thief on the cross and when...
  11. e.r.m.

    Catholic Church is more Biblical than Protestantism!

    I commend that both you and metis make better rebuttals and arguments than I have seen from the "by grace alone, through faith alone" adherents. You guys also actually address what we say instead of just posing the next argument "Well what about..." without addressing the last rebuttal. I see...
  12. e.r.m.

    Catholic Church is more Biblical than Protestantism!

    "You start pinning people to their beliefs and ask for the scripture reference then that is when satan takes hold of them." I think on forums such as this people have little thicker skins, and are willing to be challenged with scripture references.
  13. e.r.m.

    Catholic Church is more Biblical than Protestantism!

    Thank you. I "contend" with often the "by grace alone, through faith alone" school of thought. With catholic school of thought, it's more of an exploration and intrigue, and "some" contending, as there are still some unBiblical teachings in Catholicism. But a lot of it is very new to me, and as...
  14. e.r.m.

    Catholic Church is more Biblical than Protestantism!

    I must say the catholic way of speaking is far different from the evangelical way of speaking, and a bit refreshing, only because it's different than I'm accustomed to contending with. What is Johannine, according to Catholics? Thank you. The "by grace alone, through faith alone" 's out are...
  15. e.r.m.

    Catholic Church is more Biblical than Protestantism!

    Thank you.
  16. e.r.m.

    Catholic Church is more Biblical than Protestantism!

    Thank you for expressing. I take exception to that due to scriptures like 2 Peter 1:20-21, John 12:47-50, 1 Timothy 4:16, making the truth found in what the authors meant, not what we mean. However, I do respect that Catholics are honest & open about how freely they approach the scriptures, as...
  17. e.r.m.

    Catholic Church is more Biblical than Protestantism!

    How did Jesus and the apostles use an authoritarian model and what does this have to do with the conversation again? Thank you. The plagues must have been a terrible time for the church and the population at large. I can see the effect that historical pressures may have exerted on the church. In...
  18. e.r.m.

    Catholic Church is more Biblical than Protestantism!

    Thank you for the well thought out and investigated reply. This fairly raises the "possibility" of the head of household deciding for his household to be baptized. It gives enough material to put the discussion on the table, to be further vetted and taken to the next level of verification. But...
  19. e.r.m.

    Catholic Church is more Biblical than Protestantism!

    What is this "authoritarian model", which is what Jesus and the Apostles allegedly used? At best, this was a grasping at straws, far from a confirmation. But the nail in the coffin on this argument is the account itself. Acts 16:32-34 And they spoke the word of the Lord to him together with ALL...
  20. e.r.m.

    "Men and brethren, what shall we do?"

    I think you made a sharp turn from another discussion into the wrong thread.
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