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    Do we choose our beliefs? (yes and no)

    Post after post, you keep saying that I'm giving supernatural explanations, and I keep saying they are natural. Of all points of confusion during our conversation, this one stumps the most. So I looked up the term: su·per·nat·u·ral /ˌso͞opərˈnaCH(ə)rəl/ adjective (of a manifestation or...
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    Do we choose our beliefs? (yes and no)

    You keep talking like I'm trying to publish scientific results and some burden of proof is upon me. You completely miss my motivations for taking so much of my time to try and type out explanations about my beliefs to you. I'm going to be as frank as I can now. The fact that you cannot...
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    Do we choose our beliefs? (yes and no)

    The point of the demonstration is that it was something you chose to do, not that the act of opening and closing eyes should be considered distinct or special in any way. In all of this, you don't really address the point I'm trying to make, which is that you are having an experience. If I...
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    Do we choose our beliefs? (yes and no)

    I agree. And what rebellious children do not understand is that choosing to go in the exact opposite direction from their parents is just as enslaving as following their parents' every recommendation. The truth is the truth no matter who believes in it, so should we reject the truth just...
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    Do we choose our beliefs? (yes and no)

    I love your story about Tukaram. I had a similar experience. I had just moved to a humble apartment with my college buddy after living for years in New York City. During my time in the city I had felt disillusioned with the mundane mortal existence and I was looking around for a true...
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    Do we choose our beliefs? (yes and no)

    Hi Nimos! Against all odds, after several rounds of this somehow against all hope we are starting to communicate. Close your eyes Nimos. Open them again. OK. Soul just directed its body to open and close the eyes of its physical body. Does that serve as a starting point for for what the...
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    Do we choose our beliefs? (yes and no)

    It is interesting that you have such difficulty accepting that the universe is made up of spirit. If I had said that the universe were made out of subatomic particles like muons, gluons, and quarks, you'd probably accept that without a moment's thought. But you can't see them right? And you...
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    Do we choose our beliefs? (yes and no)

    I don't think you're close minded. You very patiently read rather long posts that I wrote. Obviously you should live your life as you feel is best. I did watch the video, I did think it was interesting. Actually, I was a Cognitive Science major in college. The arguments are familiar, and...
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    Do we choose our beliefs? (yes and no)

    You seem to misunderstand me somewhat. Generally, with regards to discussions with strangers, I don't bring up the topics. They do. They choose what to talk about. And of course I'm not talking about initial pleasantries. I let them talk, and I only consider "data" those conversations that...
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    Do we choose our beliefs? (yes and no)

    I thank you for not outright dismissing my statements as nonsense, and for having the patience to stick with this conversation. Questions were asked, I typed them up stream of consciousness style, and reading what I wrote again I will admit it's a bit of a hot mess. In order to explain how I...
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    I got into a fight with my dad about the bible

    Yes. Well, as much as I know anything. I mean, all I know for sure is that I'm having a conscious experience. I could be a brain in a vat. I could be someone else's avatar in a video game they are playing. But consider: you go to sleep each night and when you wake up, some nights you don't...
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    Are Russians Controlling Bernie Sanders Mind?

    I am well and fully aware that blacks are abandoning the Democratic party. They are abandoning the party that favors Democracy; in other words the party that wants each and every American to have a say in their own government. I frankly don't favor the Democrats so much as I think an evil...
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    Are Russians Controlling Bernie Sanders Mind?

    I'm not sure if that is your profile picture, but by all means, vote for Trump who thinks the way you treat women is to "grab them by the kitty". Except the word he used wasn't as polite. Why not empower women by having a historic first woman as the president of the United States? Also, I...
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    Are Russians Controlling Bernie Sanders Mind?

    Sigh. When are we going to get a President who knows how to balance the budget and erase the deficit? Oh right, Clinton did exactly that. Republicans used a political trick to discredit him. I'm so sick of my fellow Americans' inability to separate truth from untruth. Yeah, Clinton had some...
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    Do we choose our beliefs? (yes and no)

    Sorry I guess it would be easier to focus on this portion of the discussion a little bit. This part of your post is very relevant and fundamental, so I will address it first. First, is it possible for you to acknowledge that some of what you've learned in your life might be incorrect? A...
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    Are Russians Controlling Bernie Sanders Mind?

    We agreed on something! Maybe one day voters will actually pay attention to what each individual candidate is planning instead of blindly voting along party lines. I'm not holding my breath, though.
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    Are Russians Controlling Bernie Sanders Mind?

    The oldest trick in the book is to accuse your political opponents of what your side is in fact doing. We know for a fact that Trump is buddy-buddy with Putin, that the Russians tampered with the 2016 election via social media to weaken the United States' presence and influence in the world...
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    I got into a fight with my dad about the bible

    Keep an open mind, listen to what your parents have to say, but believe what you want to believe. There isn't really a need to argue, right? Your parents are taking care of you, pay them the respect parents deserve, but they don't control your mind. Only insecure people argue and have to be...
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    Do we choose our beliefs? (yes and no)

    Well, the physical body feels physical pain. I can give you anesthetic to numb physical pain, so this should be obvious. The emotional body feels emotional pain, and the mental body feels regret or foolishness. As for why this is the case, I've already stated my guesses. You might as well...
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    Do we choose our beliefs? (yes and no)

    Great question! I have pondered this myself a lot too. I have some guesses, but I don't know. My main guess is something related to a feeling of accomplishment. I think if we just started out as God realized and never knew any deception, pain, suffering, hardship, or delay, then we would...
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