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  1. Montalban

    Did Jesus ever claim to be God?

    Are you asking me to go research this for myself to prove what you say is true?
  2. Montalban

    the anti-semitism in the New Testament thread

    I thought they wrote some in Greek?
  3. Montalban

    the anti-semitism in the New Testament thread

    I think that, speaking of the peoples of the time, there was little to separete these two concepts.
  4. Montalban

    Morality of Language

    Recently I saw a documentary on the English author George Eliot (pen name). She ran off to the continent with a married man. The narrator of the story stated that in doing this she showed great 'courage' and 'conviction' because it was against the mores of the Victorian era. The narrator...
  5. Montalban

    God Government

    Indeed, how does this relate to the non-preamble parts of constitutions I quoted? The preamble is generally a statement of principle. By placing it in the constitution, at all, is important because it is saying 'these principles are based on these values' and in the cases I gave where the...
  6. Montalban

    Relgious Toleration

    I would still like you to show me the verse. I would hate for you to warn yourself for continuing not to answer a question.
  7. Montalban

    Was Alexander the Great a Muslim?

    Which god? Zues, Appollo, Poseidon? I don't know... I guess I had always assumed that Alexander was a pagan. Your 'evidence' to the contrary shows that Bury and Meiggs were wrong. So you mean, based on the passage that Alexander the Great sumbitted to God, he was a Muslim. Not 'he was a...
  8. Montalban

    the anti-semitism in the New Testament thread

    Maybe they were anti-Judaic, (if there's a difference?)
  9. Montalban

    God Government

    I am seeking clarification on what you are asking. It is not an act of hostility so you don't need to suggest that it is. I don't understand what it is you are wanting to know. If this is a problem, then close the thread.
  10. Montalban

    Did Jesus ever claim to be God?

    Lloyd, some very intersting remarks. vbmenu_register
  11. Montalban

    Is the Bible corrupt?

    Someone can both be ‘father of a nation’ and father of a son. The son can be part of that nation, as well, but holds a particular relationship as that of ‘son’, even though he is one of many people as well. There is no contradiction as the concept of ‘father’ has different meanings in...
  12. Montalban

    God Government

    So you're suggesting that having a head of state of a particular faith is not related to 'God'? Hmmm, a secularist religion, perhaps?
  13. Montalban

    Did Jesus ever claim to be God?

  14. Montalban

    God Government

    What do you think the constitution is? How would you say that a law that makes it compulsory that the head of state is of a particular religious faith (or excludes someone on the grounds of faith) is not part of the law?
  15. Montalban

    God Government

    This is a rather shifty way of putting it; 'in passing' would be a term you 'might' use only for those that have it in the preamble. Denmark for one, gaurantees that the monarch has to be of a particular faith; it is a day-to-day part of their nation It doesn't need to rest on the Bible...
  16. Montalban

    God Government

    Good, neither has Australia. We've never even had a civil war or revolution war*. Might that mean we are a more 'stable' democracy? (that seems to be what you're suggesting) *unrest, and revolts, yes.
  17. Montalban

    God Government

    Do they have to be 'theocracies'? I don't maintain that they have to be; as it seems your assertion (or rather the example of as you state of your founding fathers) is that a clear separation of state from church is something that needs be to gaurantee freedom. The United Kingdom and Greece...
  18. Montalban

    God Government

    Has it worked? Anyway, this is, as I believed to be the point which someone calls 'strawman'. I have shown examples where church and state get along just fine. There are of course examples where church and state don't mix well, of course. So the reasons for this 'corruption' may not be...
  19. Montalban

    Did Jesus ever claim to be God?

    If you claim it is baseless, then you are saying my assumptions of it being non-fiction are wrong; therefore it is fiction. That is what you are saying. You say it again right now... You also claimed something was anti-semetic. So, you're saying that my 'passion narative' is fictionless...
  20. Montalban

    God Government

    Actually yes it does. If someone is saying 'this will never work' all I need do is show one example. And I've shown you that you can have a system where the inclusion of god is not exclusive to these freedoms. Thus, it is not 'strawman' as your colleague insinuates, because I know people who...
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