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  1. Raithie

    Who bears the burden of proof?

    The burden is with the person making the claim.
  2. Raithie

    I fear nothingness

    I understand what you're saying, however, the fear is coming from the fact that everything will end. I don't like that, I can't stop that and the fear develops from that. From the perspective of existence, non existence sucks.
  3. Raithie

    I fear nothingness

    I'm not obsessing about it. I actually rarely think about it, but when I do, it still sucks. I started this thread to get an idea of how others view death out of curiousity. So no need to reassure me. I know what death is and accept the inevitability of it. This is merely a discussion thread.
  4. Raithie

    I fear nothingness

    You're around to think about it now.
  5. Raithie

    I fear nothingness

    I accepted death years ago. Doesn't dim the crappiness.
  6. Raithie

    I fear nothingness

    If too much, I agree. But realizing the finality of death is actually quite important - it serves as a harsh reminder to live your one brief life fully. Yup. That's definitely a benefit, but I'd still prefer to be conscious to see it. I love learning. I'd love to continue on doing so. The...
  7. Raithie

    I fear nothingness

    I don't understand why you seem to be so apathetic towards the end of your existence. I love existing. I love thinking. I love being. Naturally, the end of these things seem pretty lousy.
  8. Raithie

    I fear nothingness

    Ah. I'm talking to too many people in this thread. It gets confusing. I was using it as an example. You can't get any worse than neverending suffering, so I used it as a challenge to MaybeSpartacus reasoning.
  9. Raithie

    I fear nothingness

    No, ofcourse not. You claimed: "No point in fearing something you can not escape.", so I simply proposed if Hell was unavoidable, you would not fear it - because you "can not escape" from it, utilizing your line of reasoning. Not in the slightest. I'm an atheist.
  10. Raithie

    I fear nothingness

    Yes, we're wired to fear death in order to avoid it. However, although that must play a role in my fear, I think it has more to do with the fact that I'm a sentient being that can ponder upon death as something more than to be avoided at all costs. I can realize what it is, timeless nothingness...
  11. Raithie

    I fear nothingness

    I understand that after death I won't care. My lack of existence will take care of that. It's the fact that I'm alive now, that I can predict its happening and recoil at the idea of my non existence whilst I am alive. I thoroughly enjoy existing. It's an astronomically rare privilige. Alas, I...
  12. Raithie

    I fear nothingness

    So there's no point in fearing being tortured for eternity, presuming it was inevitable. That's the part that gets me. I love everything and would prefer if it didn't end, atleast not as soon as a human lifetime.
  13. Raithie

    I fear nothingness

    Yes, I was curious of peoples stances towards it. That doesn't change the fact that I don't dwell on it "for the most part". Maybe for you, but I could definitely do with longer time. I'd love to watch science progress, watch space exploration advance, live alongside the technology and knowledge...
  14. Raithie

    I fear nothingness

    Why is the absence of your existence not fearworthy?
  15. Raithie

    I fear nothingness

    No, I haven't. You seem to be missing the point. As I stated in the OP, I am aware that once I have succumbed to death, I will obviously be unaware of my passing, or anything, for that matter. But since I am alive now, I'd like to continue on existing. Since I am alive now, there is something...
  16. Raithie

    I fear nothingness

    When you sleep, you wake up. If sleep was permanent, I'd fear sleep. Existing is awesome, and now that I'm alive, I want to continue on doing so. Once I die, I won't notice it - but since I'm here now, I'd rather not diminish into an eternal nothing. I love being. How can you accept...
  17. Raithie

    I fear nothingness

    I don't dwell on it for the most part. But the thought of it is obviously inevitable. And then you realize how much it sucks. I agree that we should enjoy life fully. I don't think 60-80 years is all that long, however. Unfortunately, I can do nothing but accept this. Or, I guess I could hide...
  18. Raithie

    I fear nothingness

    Do you fear death? Why, why not? My position is yes: I fear nothingness. This is probably directed at atheists in particular, but I'm interested in all responses. I get that in death, you're no longer conscious and thus you cannot fear it once you have passed (unless you believe in an...
  19. Raithie

    Central tenet to your belief

    Except the people who suffer...? You notice that he's protecting you after you decide/realise he's "works in [your] life"? Citation please. I'm pretty confident that the child starving in Africa has prioritized surviving. I don't like the idea of anyone saying that spirituality is more important...
  20. Raithie

    Yeah, I heard about that... Crazy.

    Yeah, I heard about that... Crazy.
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