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  1. freeindeed78

    Is Saint Worship Necromancy?

    So right now there are tears, sorrow, pain in Heaven? I don't believe this scripture changes the promises of Heaven now or the new Heaven to come. Even the most observant eyes can be fooled, when speaking of human nature or otherwise. Even your answer implies you have 1 of 2 conclusions, only...
  2. freeindeed78

    Is Saint Worship Necromancy?

    Why do we assume the foundation of the argument is why not? rather than Why? Either way we presume to know the Mind of God, right? Only that this was not given as one of the gifts? And which is based on presumption rather than scripture. (or history if you don't like abiding by scripture...
  3. freeindeed78

    Is Saint Worship Necromancy?

    I'm taking the facts, and from that, can make an educated guess. If I'm praying to a saint, and at the same time you are praying to the same saint, it would imply that that saint is able to hear both prayers at the same time which is an attribute given to God. Not so much about biased belief...
  4. freeindeed78

    Is Saint Worship Necromancy?

    No, My prayer life is good (if I can say that without sounding boastful) and I believe wholeheartedly that Jesus hears my prayers and answers them. So I don't believe the issue is with my prayer, but to whom my prayer is to? I guess you could say it is a faith matter, or lack thereof. I don't...
  5. freeindeed78

    Thank You Storm....New at this, but enjoy discussing Christ, so I'm sure it will be enjoyable.

    Thank You Storm....New at this, but enjoy discussing Christ, so I'm sure it will be enjoyable.
  6. freeindeed78

    Is Saint Worship Necromancy?

    I guess for the same reasons we offer our condolences and prayers to a grieving widow, or childless father? Noone wants to feel as if their struggle is completely isolated, We sympathize for one another, we care, we show compassion. When someone I love hurts, I hurt. If they are full of Joy, I'm...
  7. freeindeed78

    Is Saint Worship Necromancy?

    Interesting. With that being said, and without taking the topic off subject too long, what's your current viewpoint on the Apocrypha? Do you still accept it as the word of God?
  8. freeindeed78

    Is Saint Worship Necromancy?

    Again though, I guess my presumption would be the prerequisite of Life Thanks for the insight
  9. freeindeed78

    Is Saint Worship Necromancy?

    True, but was always clearly marked as "Apocrypha" and never accepted as the infallible Word of God. It was completely set apart between the books of the Old an New Testament. They were not considered in the realm with the canonical books, and therefore used mainly as historical reference...
  10. freeindeed78

    Is Saint Worship Necromancy?

    Then why do we not see it throughout the history of not only Judaism, but also early Christianity? Wouldn't the Patriarchs or Father Abraham be a prime candidate to act as an intercessor? Even the Prophets?
  11. freeindeed78

    Is Saint Worship Necromancy?

    I can understand that, but my question would be why? If we have access now to the throneroom of God through His son Jesus Christ, why not go directly to the source?
  12. freeindeed78

    Is Saint Worship Necromancy?

    Well for one reason I don't see this as something Jesus taught, nor do I see it reflected in the early Church?
  13. freeindeed78

    Is Saint Worship Necromancy?

    Again, the premise would be that I believe in God and accept the attributes of God. Therefore it would not be considered odd or weird to speak to God. But I also believe the Bible as it states there is one intercessory between God and Man......Jesus Christ. So are we attributing the same...
  14. freeindeed78

    Is Saint Worship Necromancy?

    With that basis, wouldn't speaking to yourself or your conscience be on the same scale? Does that logic also include inanimate objects? The premise obviously being that you believe in something other than yourself.
  15. freeindeed78

    Is Saint Worship Necromancy?

    A question born from honest curiosity. I am not nor have I ever been a member of the Catholic Church and this question has always intrigued me as to how prayer to the saints can be explained as anything but speaking to the dead?
  16. freeindeed78

    How can you justify torturing someone forever?

    A God All Mercy is a God Unjust....Why do we accept the good teachings but reject (if I can use that term) the harsh?
  17. freeindeed78

    For Theists: What Do You Think of a Religious Teacher/Master/Preacher etc. when...

    One question I would ask then, in all sincerety, if it is fallible, who determines which parts we adhere to and which ones we discard?
  18. freeindeed78

    Could a society be structured solely on the teachings of Jesus?

    Agreed, but this was not a governing body in the sense we apply to Socialist Countries now. This was the teachings of Jesus to "sell all that you have and follow me".....which is a far cry from the Socialism being sold in society today, which is no longer about the following of Christ, but the...
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