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    Christians -- unconditional grace?

    I wrote a bit on God's free and infinite grace and the believer's life in time and ministry... if you'd like to check it out... it's a little long... hope you enjoy it and that it helps shed some light... http://www.rr-bb.com/showthread.php?p=3126572#post3126572
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    Christianity - Once Saved Always Saved?

    To the end of what?
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    Christian: Real Presence

    Then what happened: Joh 6:41 The Jews then murmured at him, because he said, I am the bread which came down from heaven. (The Holy Spirit is consistent, they murmured, same word is used in Exodus 16 from the Septuagint. The Jews murmured, it’s sadder then that, His own Disciples murmured)...
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    Christian: Real Presence

    Joh 6:12 When they were filled, he said unto his disciples, Gather up the fragments that remain, that nothing be lost. Notice they were filled. No one was lacking. Everyone’s appetite was quenched. One of the things with the manna was, no matter how much they collected, everyone ate to the...
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    Christian: Real Presence

    Now manna, what is manna? It’s ironic if you understand the Hebrew. Manna means “what is it?” Exo 16:4 Then said the LORD unto Moses, Behold, I will rain bread from heaven for you; and the people shall go out and gather a certain rate every day, that I may prove them, whether they will walk...
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    Christian: Real Presence

    Exo 16:1 And they took their journey from Elim, and all the congregation of the children of Israel came unto the wilderness of Sin… Let me pause right there, because it does say Sin. Some would get the idea that the Holy Spirit here is writing an allegory. He is not, although it’s very...
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    Christian - Once Saved Always Saved?

    Hi ChristianGirl, check this book out, and let me know what you think. You don't have to buy it, it's right here: http://www.bijbel.nl/things_that_differ.htm for free. Give it a good, honest, open-minded read and see if it sheds some light for you. This book started it all for me years ago. I...
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    Christian - Once Saved Always Saved?

    But Katzpur, that makes you the savior. You save yourself that way. This whole book is about a savior, The Savior. Religion has no savior, it has a balance that must weigh in your favor to get into heaven. There's no glory to God that way. Christ saves you, when you rest and trust in HIS work...
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    Christian - Once Saved Always Saved?

    Katzpur, Christ wasn't talking about the "end" of a man's life there, he was talking about the end of the world. Check it out... i addressed it... hope it sheds some light :) http://www.religiousforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=8154&page=23&pp=10
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    Christian - Once Saved Always Saved?

    Heb 11:1 Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen. Read that whole 11th chapter. If God didn’t say it, they couldn’t have believed it, and neither can we. God believes His Son’s work to be perfect, that instead of offering a lamb up every year to cover...
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    Christian - Once Saved Always Saved?

    Nice answer blueman! I want to clear up some James versus that were stated early in the forum. Doesn’t it say: Jam 2:21 Was not Abraham our father justified by works, when he had offered Isaac his son upon the altar? Jam 2:22 Seest thou how faith wrought with his works, and by works was...
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    Christian - Once Saved Always Saved?

    Now this isn’t tribulation in general. Careless Bible students will say well there’s been tribulation ever since Adam fell, and that’s true. But He’s marked off a particular tribulation here. He’s called it, greater then any preceding or succeeding it. He says here: Immediately after THE...
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    Christian - Once Saved Always Saved?

    Most people, and i say this lovingly, but they take this verse out of context, and without regard of the original language, Greek here, for God never wrote a word in English. What does it mean to be saved here. The word saved is from the greek verb "sozo" to deliver. Deliverance isn't always...
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    Christian - Once Saved Always Saved?

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    Christian - Once Saved Always Saved?

    Prosecutor, no offence, but you're getting things confused a bit. Your are not seeing that God prophecised an EARTHLY Kingdom, not a spiritual one. There's 2 distinctions in the Bible, an unprophesized heavenly sphere for the Body of Christ, and for the Jews and their prophesized EARTHLY...
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    Christian - Once Saved Always Saved?

    Remember salvation has always been as it is now purely a gift of God in response to faith. If Paul doesn’t make that clear in Romans 4, he goes back and takes Abraham. Abraham who predated the law and he said Abraham believed God and it was counted to him for righteousness. That was some 50...
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    Christian - Once Saved Always Saved?

    Prosecutor It is truly the greatest blessing of salvation to serve the Lord. Many think it is freedom from condemnation, not being banished from the presence of God for eternity. That will be heaven by the way. If you gawk or have trouble serving the Lord here now in time, then know this...
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    Christian - Once Saved Always Saved?

    Prosecutor, i'm not quite clear on what your saying. I said that works never issue IN our salvation. Good works will never get us saved. Good works are as filthy rags (or in the literal, as women's menstraul cloths) in God's view prior to our salvation. Good works result FROM our salvation. God...
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    Christian - Once Saved Always Saved?

    In the tenth chapter of Hebrews God and Paul tell us that the Law with its many sacrifices offered on Jewish altars could not "take away sins" and therefore could not make the Jewish worshipper perfect (Hebrews 10:1-4). Then in the tenth verse comes the great contrast, "we have been sanctified...
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    Christian - Once Saved Always Saved?

    IF GOD DOES SOMETHING BY GRACE, HE DOES IT PURELY BY GRACE. This will always be the most difficult truth for man to grasp. Man could not possibly have invented grace. If he could have, it would be present in one or more of the world’s religions, but it is not. It is remarkable by its absence. It...
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