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    You are a horrible man/woman in God's eyes!

    @Sand Dancer asked : "So you think one can lose their salvation? If someone who is Christian rapes, steals, etc, he or she is going to hell?" (post #6) Hi @Sand Dancer You asked this question of @chongjasmine and while awaiting her answer (and for the sake of conversation about this...
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    What is God's highest priority?

    Hi @Rational Agnostic I did not read the thread so I cannot tell if someone else has made this point but I think the restorational theists are correct to believe that God's priority and his "work" is "to bring to pass the immortality and eternal life of mankind". In any case, good luck coming...
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    You are a horrible man/woman in God's eyes!

    Hi @chongjasmine I also agree with @Saint Frankenstein that assuming all sins are the same is illogical and the adoption of the later theory that a Loving God that tortures a morally imperfect but steadily improving child forever in a fire-filled hell is counterproductive to faith in a "Loving"...
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    Book of Enoch

    Hi @IndigoChild5559 IndigoChild5559 claimed : "... the Ethiopian church, which has a very very different idea what the nature of canon is." (post #14) Your first claim that Enochian literature was not used as sacred literature historically (i.e. personal canon by those who used it) was shown...
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    Book of Enoch

    POST TWO OF TWO C. Bonner reminded us in 1937 that “…no part of the original writings, Hebrew of Aramaic, which entered into the composite work, has survived in the original Language. The Greek version, in which the church read enoch , also disappeared.” (Campbell Bonner, The Last Chapters of...
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    Book of Enoch

    POST ONE OF TWO 1) REGARDING INDIGOCHILD5559 THEORY THAT "INDIVIDUALS DO NOT HAVE CANONS" Clear asked : "What data does Indigochild5559 have to show the Historians of early Judeo-Christianity are wrong and his theory is correct As I mentioned, the great apocryphologist R.H. charles reminds us...
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    Book of Enoch

    Hi @IndigoChild5559 @IndigoChild5559 said : "Enoch has never been a part of either Jewish or Christian canon, with the exception of the Ethiopian church, which has a very very different idea what the nature of canon is." (post #11) 1) A working definition of what constitutes an individuals'...
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    Is it possible that Christianity is true, yet the Bible contains errors?

    POST TWO OF TWO 4) THE TRANSLATOR(S) / CREATOR(S) OF BIBLES HAVE EXPRESSED CONCERN REGARDING ATTITUDES OF THEISTS TOWARDS THE PRODUCT OF THEIR WORK For the biblical translator and biblical linguist, the reverence and worship of their book as a thing of perfection may border on idol worship. It...
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    Is it possible that Christianity is true, yet the Bible contains errors?

    POST ONE OF TWO While I am not bothered if the greek text uses ελακησεν to originally mean Judas "vomited out" the contents of his belly, or if it means Judas' intestines "spilled out", or if he had been hanged and his body was bloated and burst like dead whales do after they have been dead for...
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    Book of Enoch

    Hi @lewismilton I the importance of the Book of Enoch as part of early Judeo-Christian canon; In response to ChristianCommando's claim that "Earlier church Leaders who came across this "Book" never accepted it into the "Canon of Scripture." Shammahbn replied : “It's not really true to say...
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    Is it possible that Christianity is true, yet the Bible contains errors?

    I like the rational logic behind this post. I am a convinced Christian who believes that a God exists and that Jesus was the promised Messiah and I believe in his resurrection. However, this belief is NOT dependent upon having inerrant textual witnesses. Scholars of the early religious...
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    What do you believe about the Holy Spirit?

    POST TWO An early synagogal prayer included the spirit (the paraclete or counsellor) as one of the promises of God to mankind : “And in our days you laid hold of us through your great High Priest, Jesus Christ your child.... and you bring forward into light the rational animal, the man. With...
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    What do you believe about the Holy Spirit?

    POST ONE OF TWO Walter and Debbie said : “Is the Holy Spirit God? The Godhead is made up of three equal persons living in perfect unity with each other. “ (post #19) While I do not believe the Holy Spirit is God the Father, I do believe that The Father, The Son and The Holy Spirit is made up...
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    Faith Without Works Is Dead

    Hi @Walter and Debbie 1) Authentic, living faith is always manifest by some sort of action Though we hear this point being made, your reminder that all faith is made manifest by some sort of action (εργα) and that faith, without being manifest by some sort of action is unable, by itself, to...
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    Jewish Messiah

    REGARDING THE DEFINITION OF THE WORD “CHRISTIAN” Ebionite claimed the definition of "Christian was" : “…disciples who aligned with Paul's accomodation of foreign interests, which was in conflict of with the nationalism of the original disciples of Galilee.” Post #461 Clear replied ...
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    Where are the Dead?

    1)REGARDING THE EARLY JUDEO-CHRISTIAN DOCTRINE THAT THE DEAD WOULD RESURRECT : THEIR SPIRITS ALONG WITH THEIR BODIES. nPeace asked : “Why do persons believe dead bodies are raised up? Or rather, why do you believe that?” (post #927) Clear responded : “1) THE RESURRECTION DOESN'T SEEM TO...
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    Where are the Dead?

    Hi @nPeace So.... I point out the many erroneous historical claims you made in my two posts #944 and #945 and your response in post #949 is that I am "not listening to Jesus"? Got it... In any case, I truly hope your life is insightful and your spiritual journey wonderful. Clear
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    Where are the Dead?

    POST TWO OF TWO 3) Regarding the strange claim that because the name Jehovah exists in Old Testament Texts, it should be added to the New Testament Texts where it never existed nPeace said : It is obvious that a direct quoting from the Hebrew texts, where the Divine Name is found, would contain...
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    Where are the Dead?

    POST ONE OF TWO Hi @nPeace nPeace, Please be at peace regarding my posts. I'm not particularly emotional about religion and don't get angry, but there are a few issues that I want to be perfectly clear about. This is probably why you thought I was angry about the bragging that your...
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    Where are the Dead?

    Hi @nPeace THE PROBLEMS CAUSED TO RELIGIONISTS BY ERRONEOUS BRAGGING 1) The claim to have the “most studious of Bible Scholars, in the world”. nPeace said : “If it's sounds like I am bragging, it's only because we are proud to be a privileged people - a people for God's name, taught by...
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