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    Has anyone used science to "just" disprove the bible?

    Actually there are those who use the doctrines of Christianity to disprove the bible. However, just because you can scientifically disprove the doctrine doesn't mean you've disproved the bible, as it's thought it would. It only proves the interpretation is flawed and those who have used the flaw...
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    The Jews killed Jesus

    You say you know the Lord was a Jew, so what do you think he will do to those who claim they know him yet persecute the Jews of which he is? Isaiah 26:10 Let favor be shown to the wicked, yet he will not learn righteousness. In the land of uprightness he will deal wrongfully, and will not see...
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    The Jews killed Jesus

    Thanks for the dialog and the information. The bottom line as you have said is the Romans executed the Messiah. Romans as you know are Gentiles so it was the Gentiles who executed, crucified, killed the Messiah. The Jews handed him over to them after they themselves condemned him. The Lord is...
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    The Jews killed Jesus

    Luke 3:29 Acts 7:45 Heb 4:8 We said scholars. We said it for the reason you state below "Modern scholars who translate". We agree but they also use the LXX and the Christians did predominately if not exclusively use the LXX at one time. What is Joshua translated to in Hebrew? What is...
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    The Jews killed Jesus

    Why would the scholars also translate Iesous as Joshua in the NT? Why would they translate Iesous to Joshua in the OT whether from Greek or Hebrew translations. Do you believe the Messiah was given the Greek name Iesous or Yesous? If not what was his actual given name used by Joseph and Mary...
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    The Jews killed Jesus

    Conspire - To join or act together; combine Acts 4:25 who by the mouth of your servant, David, said, ‘Why do the nations rage, and the peoples plot a vain thing? 4:26 The kings of the earth take a stand, and the rulers take council together, against the Lord, and against his...
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    The Jews killed Jesus

    Acts 4:25 who by the mouth of your servant, David, said, ‘Why do the nations rage, and the peoples plot a vain thing? 4:26 The kings of the earth take a stand, and the rulers take council together, against the Lord, and against his Messiah.’ 4:27 “For truly, in this city against your holy...
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    The Jews killed Jesus

    We are on a similar page. The point that is being made is that all Jews and Gentiles alike bear the responsibility for his death and we all must come to repentance. One group shouldn't be blaming the other. He says all have fallen short of the Glory of God and whoever hasn't sinned cast the...
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    The Jews killed Jesus

    You say some Christians were Jews. Were the rest Gentile? Either way why have Jews historically been so persecuted, terrorized, tortured, and killed by Christians up to this day for supposedly crucifying the Messiah? Especially since as you say they are also of the Jewish descendants. Also...
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    The Jews killed Jesus

    So your saying it was the ancestors of the Christians that killed the Messiah? Again your saying the ancestors of the Christians killed the Messiah? The scriptures actually say the chief priests and the elders persuaded the people to ask for Barabbas and when Pilate asked what should be...
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    The Jews killed Jesus

    Actually it was the ancestors of the Christians that killed the Messiah not the jews. Matthew 20:19 and will hand him over to the Gentiles to mock, to scourge, and to crucify Mark 10:33 “...They will condemn him to death, and will deliver him to the Gentiles. 10:34 They will mock him, spit...
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    Questions about 666

    Matthew 23:9 Call no man on the earth your father, for one is your Father, he who is in heaven.
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    Questions about 666

    I would like to thank you for your time and the information you have made available to the viewers. It is a great opportunity for others to take the references and statements you have made and see for themselves where it leads. There is definately enough information from your responses, enough...
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    Questions about 666

    You have misquoted consistently what I have been saying and you make it quite obvious. As quoted above I never stated any scholar that I am aware of placed the name jesus in the calculation of 616. I stated I used the methods that they used. This was to include the method that was used as you...
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    Questions about 666

    Since I am not allowed up to this point to leave links If you need the numerical value of the letters go to wikipedia and search for hebrew alphabet then scroll down to Names, scripts, values, and transliteration of the letters. There you will find a chart to assist. Besides if you leave off...
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    Questions about 666

    I don't see that you are showing any inconsistancies on my part but Keep going, you are proving it yourself, whether you see it or not. The yod has been stated to equal 10 and has cosistantly been throughout this thread. yod=10 shin=300 vav=6 shin=300 Who was creating a numerology from Joshua...
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    Questions about 666

    Well your direction should have some use to you though. Yeshua - Wikipedia states the spelling to be יֵשׁוּעַ This spelling is yod shin vav ayin. note the "e" and the "u", there is no e in the spelling but there is a vav. This is quite similar...
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    Questions about 666

    The point isn't where the languages originated. Sure there is a connection between Hebrew, Greek, Latin, and English as well as others. Hebrew aleph, bet, gimel, dalet, Greek alpha, beta, gamma, delta, then onto english a, b, c, d. In fact if you look at the design of English it is more similar...
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    Questions about 666

    It is also interesting to note that “u” “v” “w” and “y” originate from the vav aka waw. "W" is actually double u. it used to be written uu. The history of the alphabet is an interesting one. I will post our website when I can, I have a list of references including dictionaries, encyclopedias...
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