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    Athiest Design

    I think an interesting thing to contemplate is how long would you want to keep doing this? Would you know enough after ten thousand years? Million years? Billion? Trillion? Centillion? Googolplex years? And after all that time, eternity has not even begun. To a lot of people...
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    Athiest Design

    Not always. Snowflakes are nice and neat and require no intelligent design -- just a few simple rules. I think an easier way to view entropy is to imagine particles in a box. Imagine 3 particles placed in a small volume in a corner of a big box. This is very low entropy. Let them loose and...
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    Athiest Design

    This has been a common problem in science. Someone thinks there should be a cause for the universe. Why? Probably because they see cause/effect everywhere and assume it must apply everywhere (even the places they can not see). Quantum mechanics taught us that we should not make such...
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    Athiest Design

    Why call it a law of Free Will and not a Choice of Free Will? There are many examples of God across religions in which he breaks "free will." If God knows the future and set up everything, then we have as much free will as a boulder does rolling down a hill. Maybe heaven is a place where only...
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    Athiest Design

    I see so many possible answers. For example for "Why is there evil if there is a God?" 1. God just wanted to make super-nova because they were pretty to him. We were an accident. 2. God made humans and watches them as a screen-saver on his God computer like we watch fish on our...
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    Arguing against Evolution without Religion

    I think there is some confusion from the OP: I think the underlined "not" was not suppose to be there. I think it has to do with the concept of what a species is. It is purely a man-made category to descripe something and it is very inexact. (For example, we should be pan sapiens, not homo...
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    Why Is Atheism So Unpopular In America?

    Pretty good thread. I have a few comments on what I have read so far. The US was founded as a secular society by founders that tended to lean towards Desim. The Treaty of Tripoli even stated that this was not a Christian Nation. It was also pointed out that the Ten Commandments really don't...
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    Hell within Heaven

    If it is a rule that God follows, then God chose it. So God could have chosen differently. Or God can choose different. God can decide that a person living a life of misery should be removed from existance. After all, why make suffering permanent when God can choose differently? But you...
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    Turning away from God

    When I was 8, I asked my grandmother why people did bad things. She said it was because they did not believe in God so they did anything they wanted to. I could not understand why they did not believe in God. So I said "So where do they think babies come from?" My grandmother nodded and...
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    Does Religion Warp People's Morals?

    I think this is a good point. But if there was not religion, how easy would it be to find another scapegoat to do what you wanted in the first place? For example, I remember reading that the Spanish took a priest to meet an American Indian king in the New World. The priest showed him the...
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    Hell within Heaven

    I think you have to accept a weakened God who is not all powerful for this to work. You have to believe that God is not powerful enough to do something different. I think that would be a catching point for Christians who believe in an all-powerful deity.
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    Reality

    I think this is a very basic point. We can never know 100% that we are experiencing reality. I think the movie, The Matrix, does a good job of giving a hypothetical situation where reality is not what we percieve, but it is a computer simulation. (Now, it would have been really interesting if...
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    The Nicene Creed

    If God sent an angel to command an army, you can serve God by serving the angel. So I think you can serve Christ if he were or were not also God. I tend to see this as the overall idea also. However, the problem comes in when Jesus talks to God as if he were someone separate. If your husband...
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    In the name of God...

    I am not real sure where we are disagreeing. Do you think God would actively do something that has no effect on the outcome? If so that just seemd to be a wasteful action on God's part that served nothing. If not, then God forcefully changed Pharoah's mind. This pretty much happens right...
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    The Risks of Belief

    How do you know we don't come up with pre-programmed answers as well? It is hard to distinguish human thought from a computer's on a conceptual level. We both respond to input and output. We can both learn over time. Both can respond to others. We both deal with environment and self. The...
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    In the name of God...

    Where are you differing from what Darkness or I claim? If God strengthtened Pahroah's heart and Pharoah won't let them God, then God modified Pharoah so he would not let them go. If Pharoah would have naturally let the Israelites go to the desert, God would have to do nothing. If Pharoah...
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    Spiritual?

    I am not sure how that makes us special since the center would be everywhere such as Ploto, other galaxies, etc. It makes us recognize that our place in the Universe is not special. You may try to linguistically make it seem otherwise, but that is not in practice how atheists view our world...
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    The Risks of Belief

    I am not surewhat you mean by your clarification. Did you mean "Risks to myself if I believe in God?" If so, you can take my examples and look at them from your perspective. Will you become a killer because earthly life is not worth as much as the afterlife? Will you refuse medical care...
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    Anything Goes LDS Thread (Everyone Welcome)

    Do you think American Indians descended directly from the Jews?
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    The Risks of Belief

    It depends on how fundamental your beliefs are. For example, if you believe that Earth is a temporary resting spot and your real life begins in heaven, then logically, you may kill people in danger of going to hell. Or say you refuse to let your kids be immunized because that would be...
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