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  1. madhatter85

    General Conference Anticipation Thread

    Robert d Hales gained a lot of weight. So far the talks have been very good, I can't think of any I didn't have desire to part attention to.
  2. madhatter85

    Mormons believe all religions contain truth?

    My signature is an abbreviated statement made by the first presidency in the 1970's. It really describes how we feel about other faiths in general. Here is a talk given by James E. Faust in 2006, one year before he passed away...
  3. madhatter85

    JS becoming 85 years old

    I still see it the same way. He knows all the possible decisions starting from beginning to end. There are no surprises for him.
  4. madhatter85

    JS becoming 85 years old

    No. It means they already made the choice as in it is past tense. The only way that God could know what choices we are going to make is if we had already made them. which opens up a whole other philosophical bag of worms.
  5. madhatter85

    JS becoming 85 years old

    Agreed.
  6. madhatter85

    JS becoming 85 years old

    Exactly what I am saying.
  7. madhatter85

    JS becoming 85 years old

    I also think the scripture to Joseph Smith is circumstantial evidence to my position. I think that God was saying "If A happens, then B will happen." Even though the likelihood of Joseph living to be 85 was nearly non existent, it was still a possibility. Otherwise God would have been lying by...
  8. madhatter85

    JS becoming 85 years old

    It really doesn't to me. To me, any kind of pre-determined outcome negates the very possibility of free-will or agency. I believe God makes highly educated and accurate guesses and knows all possible outcomes and plans accordingly. Now, I know that I could very well be wrong, but this allows...
  9. madhatter85

    JS becoming 85 years old

    Interesting, I see it almost the opposite. It is easier to accept and to claim personal responsibility. If you have no choice you can't have personal responsibility. However if you can choose, then yes you have personal responsibility.
  10. madhatter85

    JS becoming 85 years old

    This is just my opinion, but I see God as "the great chessplayer" he knows all the moves, he knows which moves we are likely to make, but his knowledge does not determine the outcome. Because he knows all possible moves, he is never "surprised" and because his plan for us is perfect it cannot be...
  11. madhatter85

    What'd You Get From Conference

    I don't think it is wrong at all. When I was 10 they asked me what I wanted to do in school and I defined my goals then. I wanted to go to MIT and major in Mathematics and Physics. That never happened. There are people who are very driven individuals. They don't stop for anything. They just keep...
  12. madhatter85

    What'd You Get From Conference

    I think your bring up a valid point. However, I am particularly fond of the "be a man/John Wayne" approach and that seems to be prevalent in talking with the YSA priesthood body. Throw yourself into the fire; so what if you get burned a few times? Adversity makes you a stringer human being. I...
  13. madhatter85

    Tea and Coffee??

    I have not cast stones. I am sure she is still a nice person and all. I just have to ask "what is going through your mind that makes you think it is O.K.?" It just makes no sense.
  14. madhatter85

    Tea and Coffee??

    And so did the Nephites. Your point? I still would have said "what the hell is wrong with you?"
  15. madhatter85

    Tea and Coffee??

    I never said that I was without fault. The difference between you and me is that I actually strive to do the things that are asked of me and acknowledge my mistakes as well as forsake them. Idon't make excuses and say "well I hope I get points for doing good things over here" while at the same...
  16. madhatter85

    Tea and Coffee??

    Yes that is true and I never said anything about her "salvation." I am more concerned with the example she is putting forth as a self-identifed LDS member who openly criticizes church leadership and drinks "on occasion."
  17. madhatter85

    Tea and Coffee??

    #1 Do you know what scripture that is? I will look for it but, I am sure you are taking it out of context. #2 Yes, even more so. Not to the point of disbelief, But yes I would say "what the hell is wrong with you?" if I saw him drinking. But can you provide a source?
  18. madhatter85

    Tea and Coffee??

    it is absolutely relevant to the highlighted portion of the quote. You clearly don't understand forum etiquette. it is polite to quote those who you are responding to as it can make following a conversation quite challenging. especially when most of us have lives that distract from having the...
  19. madhatter85

    Tea and Coffee??

    see post 81
  20. madhatter85

    Tea and Coffee??

    Exactly. if you have to think to yourself "Is it REALLY OK" to do something; best practice, do without it.
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