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    There is not enough erosion of the continents for them to be many 10s of millions of years old.

    That sounds like someone's offhand opinion. Should anyone else agree with you? What are the criteria by which you reach such a conclusion?
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    My journey to being a non-religious, non-believer

    I can’t blame you for wanting out of the Christian tribe. There seem to be no standards and anyone who will bend the knee and say ‘the words’ is accepted. There seems to be no coherence between espoused values and deeds. I’ve met Christians I liked and respected but it always seemed to me...
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    If God is something real for you, how do you imagine who/what that is?

    That is fine. You do you but it seems obtuse to me. Dreams and creative inspiration are entirely subjective and real as such. I think the sacred is similar. Its existence like the other two can be fleeting and disappear when focussed on directly. For me God is not a being in any sense but...
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    If God is something real for you, how do you imagine who/what that is?

    "Objectively exists" isn't a category I use much, at least not in matters of the sacred. I think the sacred is a subjective matter, not an empirical one.
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    If God is something real for you, how do you imagine who/what that is?

    I didn't think you in particular thought that but I just mean to show how stereotypes can over simplify and distort too.
  6. W

    If God is something real for you, how do you imagine who/what that is?

    Yes. God is only recognizable as a gestalt and cannot be deduced from a compilation of all demonstrable facts. It isn’t an empirical matter nor a question of pure logic. If it has any validity at all you’d need access to insight afforded by the depths of your humanity.
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    If God is something real for you, how do you imagine who/what that is?

    If we’re looking for something along the lines of a Marvel comic there likely is not even one. But that would indicate we don’t know what to look for and perhaps do not even know what “God” means.
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    If God is something real for you, how do you imagine who/what that is?

    It would be inappropriate if it were a category error..
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    If God is something real for you, how do you imagine who/what that is?

    I agree. Just because many want whatever it is "God" has meant to people over the years to conform to the way they would like a new species of lizard to be described, doesn't mean that is appropriate or even possible.
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    If God is something real for you, how do you imagine who/what that is?

    Absolutely. I haven’t and wouldn’t imply otherwise. But “God/gods” means something to those who believe or disbelieve on that. Here I’m only looking to learn how others think about what that is. So far - and I’m only now catching up - Kabir’s wordx are the only quotes I’ve seen in this thread.
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    If God is something real for you, how do you imagine who/what that is?

    When I was a young kid I imagined God as a beardy guy in the sky. Soon I stopped thinking God was real because it didn't jive with everything else I knew about the world and because my very religious father was away with the navy and my mother wasn't dragging seven of us there alone. I pretty...
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    Do you Think we have Free Will

    I don’t even think it is a meaningful question.
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    What if we accepted each others Religion?

    I would be content if Christians just respected other traditions as being similarly concerned with the sacred without instantly getting into tribalism and vague warnings about what awaits them at judgement. To me that attitude is a corruption of Christianity. Either be a good neighbor or admit...
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    atheism is a (religious position)

    There is a difference between “having a position on religion” and “having a position within religion”. Atheism is the former but not the latter.
  15. W

    The most amazing animal?

    Crap, double post. But as long as I opened another post might as well give a shout out to the human animal. We have some stunning capacities though we're also a huge liability to most of the living world.
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    The most amazing animal?

    I second that. In Peter Godfrey Smith's (2016) Other Minds / The Octopus, The Sea and The Deep Origins of Consciousness you get a good appreciation for why they make a good test case for meetings with aliens from afar.
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    God and Death

    That is a heck of a lot of IF in your question. What if we started instead with .. “If God is an un-word for something ineffable we can only intuit which is nonetheless real, dynamic and important in the lives of humans ..” With so little to go on who is to say?
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    Are Humans Animals Or Not ?

    Elephants are the largest living land animals. Does that separate them from animals or distinguish them as a particular animal? I think humans and elephants are particular animals with distinguishing characteristics.
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    Is it possible that Christianity is true, yet the Bible contains errors?

    Definitely no in my opinion. The Bible isn’t a book I put a lot of stock in. But what does it mean to say “Christianity is true?” Many subsets of Christians proclaim differing doctrines; is that the measure of “true” or does truth refer to reliability as a guide to a good life? If the...
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