The only fallacy is in the minds of Christians who believe that Jesus is God.
John 14:9 does not mean that Jesus is God. It means that anyone who has seen Jesus has seen a reflection of God, a mirror image.
Colossians 1
14 In whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of...
There is, never has been, and never will be any empirical evidence for God because God is not a physical entity that we can SEE.
John1:18 No one has seen God at any time. The only begotten Son, who is in the bosom of the Father, He has declared Him.
Exodus 33:20 But He said, “You cannot see...
Hi. I'm just wondering, I know you posted scriptures about Jesus being God and you also posted scriptures as to how his persecutors beat him up. How do you explain that God can be beaten up?
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I have shown you in each gospel where he clearly claims to be God - clearly and there is not any content criticist who can say otherwise.
Noup , 'I am' is in Mark 14 also.
Mark 14
"They took Jesus to the high priest, and all the chief priests, the elders and the teachers of the law came...
All five versions of Jesus deny they're God and never claim to be God. The "before Abraham was, I am" line refers to John's Jesus, like Paul's, pre-existing in heaven and creating the material universe. John's Jesus, incidentally, is the most emphatic of all five versions about not being God eg...
Should I believe you or believe Jesus? Quoting two separated verses from John's gospel proves nothing.
If you think in natural terms, God the Father and Jesus (God the Sun) are separate. But the Bible refers to spiritual terms.
What do you think that Jesus meant when this occurred, "Philip...
John1:18 No one has seen God at any time. The only begotten Son, who is in the bosom of the Father, He has declared Him.
Anyone who has seen Jesus has seen the Attributes of God, but they have not SEEN GOD...
"If you really know me, you will know my Father as well. From now on, you do know him and have seen him.” John 14:7 That's what the Bible clearly says, so why should I accept what you say?
Do you know what "I and the Father are one" means? It means they are ONE! Not two, not identical, not...
It is astonishing to me that you and others don't understand what the Bible clearly says, probably because the Bible communicates spiritual truths.
Do you know what "I and my Father are one" means? It means that they are both God. John 1:1 clearly says that "In the beginning was the Word...
"I and the Father are one." doesn't mean that Jesus is God.
“I and my Father are one” (John 10:30) means that whatever pertains to Jesus, all His acts and doings, are identical with the Will of the Father. Jesus and God also share the same Holy Spirit, so in that sense they are one. Jesus also...
So should I believe you or Jesus and/or John?
Jesus said, in John 14:7, "If you really know me, you will know my Father as well. From now on, you do know him and have seen him.”
Of course believing in God, the Trinity, the truth of Scripture, eternal life, etc. are all by faith. If they were...
I didn't realize that you are such an authority on Bible translation! How long have you studied ancient, Hebrew, and Koine Greek? Which source documents have you used? Which ones did you find reliable and which ones not? Please list your experience as a Bible translator and/or your...
There is no such thing as God the Father and God the Son. There is only God the Father.
The Son is not the Father.
The following translations of john1:18 have been altered by Trinitarian Christians in order to make Jesus into God.
This is despicable, not to mention completely illogical!
John...
You quote John1:18, but you need to understand it in context. "No one has ever seen God. The only one, himself God, who is in closest fellowship with the Father, has made God known." This clearly means that no one has ever seen God the Father, but they have seen God the Son! See this ->
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You know that God exists by faith and so do I, but that is not the same as factual knowledge which is provable.
They have seen the image of God, not God. An image is not that which it reflects.
Colossians 1
14 In whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins:
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John 14:7-9, "If you have known me, you will know my Father too. And from now on you do know him and have seen him.”
Philip said, “Lord, show us the Father, and we will be content.” Jesus replied, “Have I been with you for so long, and you have not known me, Philip? The person who has seen me...
Nobody SAW GOD when Jesus appeared on Earth, because Jesus was not God.
John1:18 No one has seen God at any time. The only begotten Son, who is in the bosom of the Father, He has declared Him.
John1:18 No one has seen God at any time. The only begotten Son, who is in the bosom of the Father, He has declared Him.
Jesus was a Manifestation of God, not God incarnate, so what people saw when they saw Jesus was a Manifestation of God, who was also a Prophet and a Messenger of God.
You...
"Jesus made God visible. That means that Jesus and God were TWO separate entities." That is very poor reasoning. When people saw Jesus they saw God!
The Holy Spirit is God. The Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit are different manifestations of the one triune God.
"The Christian doctrine...