Yes it does. "Fail." "Pay better attention" (I hope you don't mind reading your own words)
The ancient Hebrew cosmology depicts a flat disc-shaped earth resting on pillars above water (the Tehom) with the heavens (shamayim) above, the sky (firmament), earth (eres) in the middle, and the...
We were not "presented" with 2 books. There are thousands of religious books. Many before the Bible and many after. They were all almost definitely written by people.
Satan was not cast down (that is an interpretation by Origen) but in early scripture Satan is an agent of Yahweh. He brings a...
Thank you.
Which would mean that a skeptic can pick a verse and apply it poetically... if he / she wants, and a Christian can pick a verse, and apply it literally.
Why would the skeptic apply every verse that would counter their argument in this way?
Why would the Christian apply the verse in a...
You know @nPeace the verse you quoted from Isaiah about the "circle of the earth" brings to mind another passage, 1Samuel2:8 where it says "For the pillars of the earth are the Lord’s, and on them he has set the world". So we have a circle that rests on pillars. Sounds flat, and explains why...
Yes, the Earth abides forever - Ecclesiastes 1:4 B - remains forever - Psalms 104:5
That does Not make the Earth the center of of the Universe.
What won't remain are the wicked - Psalms 104:35; Psalms 92:7
Even Abraham, without a telescope, could look up and see a google plex of stars knowing...
What Does the Bible Say About Geocentrism? Besides many references describing the earth is fixed and doe not move. It describes the sun, moon and other heavenly bodies rotating around the earth.
Psalm 104:5 ESV / 47 helpful votes
He set the earth on its foundations, so that it should never be...
No miscommunication at all, and splitting frog hairs over terminology does not change the references. My references concerning the Church Fathers and 2 Peter 3:8 stand as cited.
There is a miscommunication.
You are stating that Genesis describes real events, and it's 'literal' in that way. In contrast many are using the word "literalism" to mean something else, about an entirely different question.
And it's less trivial than it may at first seem (see below). But...
Farnsworth,
There are no untruths in God’s word, the Bible. Many of the thing stated are used the same way today as in the distant past. Remember, it was The Almighty God, Jehovah who created all things. I believe He could get a little more accurate, if He wanted to, probably so accurate...
Ok, I'll give it a shot.. but these are pretty lame.. not much of a challenge.
1. The passage does not claim the earth is flat. The atmosphere has been called a "canopy" for millennia.
2. Foundation and pillars are literary devices, not a scientific explanation. The context is clear, for...
1. Globes, which are circular, are round from all perspectives as is the Earth.
2. The context shows this to be metaphorical, not literal, language.
3. This is a translation error in the KJV. The correct term used here was "expanse."
4. Much of the language of Revelation is metaphorical, not...
1. Why in the world, to coin a phrase, is calling the circle of the earth saying it's flat? a sphere projects to a circle and why in the world, to use the phrase again, does the Bible say 'you make the earth to hang on nothing' It does not make your point
2. the "Pillars" of the...
Sigh, here we go again.
1. Is not a ball circular in shape ? Or, do you contend it is a triangle, square or rectangle in shape ?
2. Pillars are allegorical illustrations of the foundation or strength of the earth. It says that the strongest thing the people of the time understood, pillars of a...
Many parts of the Bible aren't meant to be taken as literal factual truths, perhaps each of these quoted Biblical scriptural verses have a deeper inner spiritual meaning.
My own personal opinion is that these are just personal interpretations.
I believe there is a rational and reasonable interpretation that is in accordance with science and reason. There are a lot of symbolical meanings in these verses but those who take it literally of course it doesn’t make...
That's trying really hard to point out error... most of this is obviously ancient literary expessive writing. It's nothing to argue about. The error is the stories themselves, stories being accepted as fact and not fiction, physically impossible, but believed by faith just because its accepted a...
Are these to be taken literally or metaphorically?
I believe these are to be taken metaphorically and not literally. For example:
Are they literal pillars? The Bible uses metaphors extensively that is why a lot of people are confused and are only second guessing.
So it is no longer 10...
More like 10 misunderstandings of an atheist!
That's a stretch to say the least. Talk about jumping to conclusions.
Wouldn't ya say that looks like a pillar or column? Yes I agree it does as well.
Another stretch of your imaginition.
Well meteorites belt the earth 24/7 and we don't even...
Many of these, as per Reverend Bob's post, could be considered figures of speech, &c.
I's also agree that ants have no rulers. The queen doesn't "rule."