Hi @InChrist . Good points you posted. I will address...
I disagree of course. :)
The above verse is almost always misinterpreted with a bias towards making it sound like everyone 'has to die' and that it is 'only one time'.
Remember, there is a Second Death as well...
Revelation 21:8
"But...
is not the Lord Jesus already returned and living in us? did he not returned on Pentecost, in Spirit?
and if he's in you, why look for another here on EARTH? for if you're in him, the Lord Jesus will you not meet him in the clouds in the sky? 1Thessalonians 4:16 "For the Lord himself shall...
Just two comments for now. I Thes 4:17 says that we will be caught up in the clouds with Jesus. Clouds are near earth not heaven. Nothing about anyone going to heaven. John 14 says Jesus will come back and receive us. When he comes back he will be on earth, not heaven. Again nothing about...
As posted above God's saints will be caught up in the air to be with Jesus at the second coming and then reign with Christ for 1000 years in heaven passing judgement on the wicked dead according to the scriptures and at the end of the 1000 years will come down to earth in the new Jerusalem to...
That is debatable. Since the earth is going up in flames then those left on it are most likely to go up in flames. Those in caves could survive but they still have a chance (since they are alive) to receive Jesus as Lord and Savior. They will also have children which will give new lives to those...
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Muffled I hope all is well...
Your Words... I believe that is nonsense. No scripture says that.
I reply with scriptures....from your post # 49 (above)
1Thessalonians4:17
After that, we who are still alive and are left will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in...
Frank why do you keep PMing me with this same subject? You know my position, and the Scriptures I use to support it….
Death was / is the penalty for sin (Genesis 3:19; Romans 5:12; Romans 6:23). It’s never been a ‘gateway to another realm.’ The promised Resurrection for mankind will restore...
We've never known a time on earth when there was no war, or famine, pestilence, or death. From what I understand, the whole creation grumbles as if with birthing pangs for the day when these have been overcome. If science and religion are compatible, which I insist that they are, then I would...
Also, remember the Bible holds out two (2) hopes: One heavenly and One earthly.
Some called to Heaven to govern with Jesus as kings and priests - Revelation 5:9-10.
As Kings they will take care of governmental duties towards the humble meek who inherit the Earth.
As Priests they will take care...
Please read the first verse of Revelation 1 because it says a Revelation by Jesus Christ...... (<- aka Messiah)
1st Thess. is part of the ALL Scripture being inspired by God - 2 Timothy 3:16-17
So, whether it is from a book of Thessalonians, Timothy or the book of Revelation God is the Author.
1Thessalonians4:17 is about a heavenly hope for people like those of Luke 22:28-30; Daniel 7:18; Revelation 2:10
In 1st Thess, chapter 4 is about Jesus 'spiritual' brothers such as mentioned at Matthew 25:40.
Remember: when Jesus was caught away in the clouds (Acts 1:9) was in connection to...
" 1Thessalonians4:17"and "Revelation 21:1"
The above verses are not from Yeshua Messiah, I understand, please.
DOUAY-RHEIMS Red Letter Bible* has not colored them in red , which means that it is neither written by Yeshua Messiah nor authored by him, I understand. Right?
It is not, therefore...
It SURE does! :)
I like what Jesus said, Matthew 22:32 I am the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob? God is not theGod of the dead, but of the living."
YUP! They are alive, my parents are alive, and we will have agree reunion!
1Thessalonians4:17
Then we which are...
Sounds something like evolution. :D
Saul evolved to Paul. Right? ;)
So I take it, you are using th second definition here... Reincarnation :-
a person or animal in whom a particular soul is believed to have been reborn.
"he believed he was the reincarnation of Louis XVI"
a new version of...
I guess it was a little confusing... (and I can assume that there may be other thoughts on the matter)
Let me start over.
There are two reincarnations, (I'm using the word very loosely - since reincarnation is someone being born again, again and again)
There is a spiritual reincarnation and...
Hey, I was raised in a Catholic family, and unless they repent, the angels are coming for them per Matthew 13:39-42 to be gathered out and tossed into the furnace of fire. I think God addresses the "fat" "shepherds" who do not feed or heal the sheep in Ezekiel 34, in that they will eat judgment...
With respect to you quoting 1Thessalonians 4, the serpent/dragon/Satan/devil is the father of lies, and his first and foremost message/lie was you surely shall not die (Genesis 3:4), and the message of the false prophet Paul is the same (1Thessalonians4:17), is that you shall not die, which...