Prophecies are promises of truth that are revealed at a future date. Therefore, the fulfillment of a prophecy is a 'timed event' that covers a period of time. The Bible tells us, "For the Sovereign Lord Jehovah will not do a thing Unless he has revealed his confidential matter to his servants...
Let me clarify. Daniel9:2 comes after Daniel has realized that his original calculation, i.e., based on Jeremiah 25, was wrong and realized that he needs to recalculate. That verse represents the turning point between an acceptance of Jer. 25 as the date of the end of the exile and Jer. 29 as...
I'll have to read the commentary some other time because I can't really absorb it right now. ;) However, I did want to ask you a quick question about that. And I don't mean to nitpick, but how could Daniel had been mistaken if he was writing under the influence of Hashem?
Yes, that is correct. Nonetheless, Daniel is referring to both sets of verses. He originally thought that he was supposed to count according to the first two verses (25:11-12), but at the time described in Daniel9:2, he came to realize that he had been mistaken and should have counted from...
But isn't Daniel9:2 referring to the destruction of Jerusalem, and aren't the verse in Jeremiah 25:11-12 referring to:
"those nations shall serve the king of Babylon seventy years" (i.e. Gentile nations)?
And in contrast to that, isn't Jeremiah 29:10 referring to
"For thus said the LORD...
Daniel is referring to a number of verses:
Jeremiah 25:11-12
Jeremiah 29:10
This same prophecy is also referenced in Ezra 1:1 and Chronicles 2:36:21-22.
I'm curious. Does anyone who is NOT Jewish, have an opinion or viewpoint on Daniel9:2 vs. Jeremiah 25:11 (i.e. the desolation of Jerusalem for 70 years vs the nations serving the King of Babylon for 70 years) as mentioned in my post #5?
I don't blame you because some of those debates and discussions can make your head hurt. :grimacing:
Okay, but do you know what verses of Jeremiah that Daniel9:2 is referring to?
click here: Daniel - Chapter 9 - Tanakh Online - Torah - Bible (chabad.org)
Because from what I looked up...
The more the color changes and the
more the bold font is underlined, the weaker
the presentation gets. Keep it up.
Oh, i almost missed this, the colours so dazzled me-
"A one time event that happens annually"
Thats too precious!
And prophecy of the flood? You couldnt have picked a better...
I've actually read the entire Bible back when I was a Christian.
I'm sorry, are you submitting that this is an "exact prophetic utterance?"
How so?
“Seventy weeks of years?”
Huh? That’s supposed to be an “exact prophetic utterance?”
Look at how you have to twist the words into a pretzel...
Which Bible did you read?
I have no desire to quote the entire bible to people who don't know anything about it, nor care to know.
However, so that such a blatant false claim does not go unaddressed...
(Daniel9:2) . . .Daniel, discerned by the books the number of years mentioned in the word of...
Uh, no. A lot people see things that are not there. Bigfoot, UFOs, and Nostradamus predicting 911. Signs of " the flood".
And say there is something wrong with people who dont see what they see.
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And then Baha'is say the same thing to Christians. They say, "All the prophecies pointed to the year 1844. But you weren't looking for the right person and weren't looking in the right place."
As you mentioned earlier, not everyone will see, and some will be blind.
Think of it this way...
Say 1,000,000 people heard someone say, "A red train with yellow wheels, black horns travelling to Timbuktu with only Indian people, will pass through Station 9 at exactly 5 PM on Wednesday, October...
Daniel was written in 167 BC during the reign and persecutions of Antiochus IV Epiphanes... during the Maccabean revolt.
The Christians of the first century AD did escape the tribulation.. Not because they were raptured, but because they fled to Pella.
The Jews did return from Babylon.. They...
The Tribulation period serves two purposes. 1.) To turn Israel back to her God as a nation through the remaining judgements upon her left in the last 7 years, or last week, of the 70 weeks of Daniel. (Daniel 9) 2.) To bring judgements against the rest of the unbelieving world, whose...
In the Middle East, during the 2nd millennium BCE (excluding Egypt, which Egyptians used papyri to write on), the most common materials used for writing were on clay tablets, from Elam and Babylonia in the east, to the Levant (eg Syria, Phoenicia, Canaan, etc) and the Hittite empire in the west...
I understand the Vulgate to be the closest existing bible to the original, compiled some 80 years after the original book which no longer exists.
Considering very few of the bibles from later periods agree with the vulgate and most modern bibles cannot agree with each other. I would say the...
Literary drift has already been established in regards to existing documents. Most of original Bible doesn't even exist anymore leaving secondary documents to 'act' as the original with the gaps filled in in with medieval documents attributed to the Catholic Church.
I would say with some...