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  1. Dunemeister

    The Trinity

    The lists of bishops provides some reason to believe the chain is unbroken. But you are right that the claim won't have much weight with those outside the church. For as the Nicene creed affirms, the Church is just as much an object of faith as God Himself is. For the Orthodox, having faith in...
  2. Dunemeister

    The Trinity

    Missed this. "Could not have"? By Jesus' day, the entire Roman world was pretty thoroughly Hellenized, even Jerusalem. Jewish polemics against paganism used pagan philosophical categories in order to do so. Therefore, it shouldn't be surprising if at least some, even many, Nazarene Jews spoke...
  3. Dunemeister

    The Trinity

    None of this tells against my claims, although I disagree that the early church was not organized and unified. The unifying principle was apostolic doctrine as it was handed on (traditioned, in the Greek) to the bishops, who in turn passed it along. Innovations and divergences were quickly...
  4. Dunemeister

    Jesus and the Problem of Evil

    Yes, Jesus is the Logos (Word), but that is not the word used in Romans 10:17. Hearing comes from the Spirit of God (or Spirit of Christ, depending on the textual variant). For you Greek experts, here are the versions I have, with the key words bolded. Call me on this if I'm wrong...
  5. Dunemeister

    Jesus and the Problem of Evil

    Right, but what is the word of God? Is the word limited to the preaching of the Church, or can the Holy Spirit go beyond His Church to reach those who are geographically and temporally separated from it?
  6. Dunemeister

    Are you on Stephen Harper's list of "enemies"?

    This problem potentially plagues all legislation, whatever its provenance.
  7. Dunemeister

    Jesus and the Problem of Evil

    So it's not like you said earlier, that those who believe in Jesus will be saved, and those who don't won't. That's good to hear. Just by the way, it should also be emphasized that, according to traditional Christianity, the Holy Spirit is active throughout the world, and that people can and do...
  8. Dunemeister

    Jesus and the Problem of Evil

    How??
  9. Dunemeister

    The Trinity

    None of this perturbs me, because as I said, the Church that developed the canon is better positioned than Johnny-come-lately scholars to know about its development.
  10. Dunemeister

    The Trinity

    In actual fact, there is an unbroken continuity between the Orthodox Church and the Apostles. The Church has "changed" in some ways over the years. She has clarified dogmas, for example. But the line is unbroken.
  11. Dunemeister

    Jesus and the Problem of Evil

    Not so fast. What about those who have never heard of the Son of God? Are they doomed?
  12. Dunemeister

    The Trinity

    That's a rather different order of thing, don't you think? The Church wasn't around when the world was created, so it's understandable that they wouldn't know much about physical cosmology. However, the Church was there when the canon was being written and formed, so we should expect she'd know...
  13. Dunemeister

    Jesus and the Problem of Evil

    From an Orthodox perspective, the Church has never, ever been divided. Groups have fallen away from it, but the Church herself has always remained intact, whole and united. What you are calling "Christianity" is mostly groups (and their descendants) that have broken away from the Church.
  14. Dunemeister

    The Trinity

    To be more precise, scholars currently hold that the writer of Hebrews is unknown. The Church herself has always maintained that Paul wrote it. Since the Church authored the bible, perhaps we should take her word for it, the misgivings of modern scholars notwithstanding.
  15. Dunemeister

    Are you on Stephen Harper's list of "enemies"?

    Wait, what? An innate sense of what? Don't like others being treated how?
  16. Dunemeister

    Are you on Stephen Harper's list of "enemies"?

    It may well be true that empathy can make the suffering of others uncomfortable for us. But that hardly seems relevant to my question. Of course we may feel uncomfortable. But why care about the suffering of others or our own discomfort at someone else's suffering? Why should what makes certain...
  17. Dunemeister

    The Christian God, Satan and Jesus

    Jung. I thought that had been established? :shrug:
  18. Dunemeister

    Are you on Stephen Harper's list of "enemies"?

    Why care about harm?
  19. Dunemeister

    Are you on Stephen Harper's list of "enemies"?

    Irrelevant. Crossing the border is a federal matter, and I don't see the feds acknowledging Washington's wisdom anytime soon.
  20. Dunemeister

    Are you on Stephen Harper's list of "enemies"?

    Morality-based legislation is all you can have.
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