Paul's Jesus (like John's but not like the synoptic Jesuses) pre-existed in heaven with God. Since Paul (and the author of John) make it clear that Jesus denies he's God and makes no claim of that kind, I'd say this means, existed in heaven with God.
Did not challenge God's authority.
But put...
But this is that which was spoken by the prophet Joel;
Acts 2:16
And it shall come to pass, [that] whosoever shall call on the name of YHWH shall be delivered: for in mount Zion and in Jerusalem shall be deliverance, as YHWH hath said, and in the remnant whom YHWH shall call.
Joel 2:32
I have...
I don’t know what scriptures you are reading…
…that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of those in heaven, and of those on earth, and of those under the earth Philippians2:10
Then Peter, filled with the Holy Spirit, said to them, “Rulers of the people and elders of Israel: 9 If we...
I agree that God 'desires' that everyone be saved, and God sent Jesus for that purpose, but I don't believe that those who turn away will be saved.
1 John 4:14
14 And we have seen and testify that the Father has sent his Son to be the Savior of the world.
I agree with that verse, but God gave...
1 John 4:14
14 And we have seen and testify that the Father has sent his Son to be the Savior of the world.
1 Timothy 4:10 For to this end we toil and strive, because we have our hope set on the living God, who is the Savior of all people, especially of those who believe.
Lamentations...
Well, I don't know. You have not been saved from your sins, and therefore your plagues (Rev 18:4) and death will accompany you to your waiting grave (Jer 31:30). As for calling on the name of the "Lord", well Yeshua says those who call on his name, such as Paul, and do miracles and cast out...
GINOLJC., to aall.
Mary is the fruit of David body that bore the messiah into this world. you didn't either read or understand my post. the messiah is the King to come, per Genesis 49:10, Shiloh. he God, in GLORIFIED flesh, will sit on David throne. and it is HE who will Judge. and he is the...
That and many other scriptures say they didn't recognize him. (1 Corinthians 1:21 and 1 Corinthians 2:8 for instance.) You are denying it because it doesn't line up with your beliefs.
It is true no one can see the invisible God, because God is a Spirit. John 4:24 But once he took on a...
I’m unsure why you claim I am agreeing with RedemptionSong over Phillipians 2:9, nor Philippians2:10,11.
I don’t think I have ever agreed with what RedemptionSong said.
Are you sure you read me right? Please re-read what I did say and show me where I was incorrect!
Your criticisms have no foundation in truth.
If your complaint is about lsaiah 45:23 and Philippians2:10,11, then there are good reasons to compare these passages.
Context provides support to meaning, but one is still required to 'rightly divide' the word of truth.
Both you and Soapy have...
He is playing devils advocate too much and not realising that he could get stuck in that mode.
I have warned him!
Still, this all helps to build up the true believer in being able to defend the truth. Imagine being asked these devilish questions in a public place and not knowing how to...
Soapy has already highlighted verse 9, and l have responded with an explanation.
A distinction is made between the Father, who has never been seen, and Jesus Christ, the Son of God, who has been seen.
Yet, the two are one Spirit - God.
There are many gods in the Bible (Moses, Judges, Jesus, Warriors, ...), there are more than one Messiah's (Cyrus, Jesus), There are many rulers who's subjects prostrated themselves towards them,...
Similarities in functions and titles, by no stretch of the imagination, necessitate identical...
This is only your side-stepping tactic.
If you think that the context of either passage changes the meaning, then explain how this has occurred! I believe the two passages, lsaiah 45:22,23 and Philippians2:10,11, warrant comparison.
You complain about heresy, but it appears to me that you...
You've missed out lsaiah 45:23!
It states:
'I have sworn by myself, the word has gone out of my mouth in righteousness, and shall not return, That unto me every knee shall bow, every tongue shall swear'.
Not only do they bow the knee to God, but 'every tongue shall swear'.
What do you think...
it answers itself:
Philippians2:10-11
10 That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;
11 And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.
This has nothing to do with...
Two different time periods.
Have you not read in the New Testament:
“Then Jesus came to them and said, “All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me.” (Matt 28:18)
“And God placed all things under his [Jesus’] feet and appointed him to be head over everything for the church, which...