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  1. Truth in love

    Free speech fail

    Having gotten a tour of the dark side. I’m out of here. I refuse to take part in the assault on truth and free speech that is forced here.
  2. Truth in love

    Religious rules/guidelines

    I don't know if you don't understand me or don't know this is not a debate thread or just want to pick a fight, but I'm declining to argue this with you. I've stated my position and I'm sticking with it.
  3. Truth in love

    Religious rules/guidelines

    I well aware of that thanks.
  4. Truth in love

    Religious rules/guidelines

    You see them as two different items. I don’t.
  5. Truth in love

    Religious rules/guidelines

    Actually the physical and the more spiritual laws are laws.
  6. Truth in love


    The resurrection is a free gift to all. If you live you die. If you die you will be resurrected. Quality of life post resurrection does vary depending upon our choices.
  7. Truth in love

    Religious rules/guidelines

    I’m not going to argue, but I do stand by there being eternal law
  8. Truth in love

    Religious rules/guidelines

    Physics and the things we would call spiritual.
  9. Truth in love

    Religious rules/guidelines

    We have options in how we see things, but eternal law applies to all even if they are ignorant of it.
  10. Truth in love

    Religious rules/guidelines

    Eternal law is very objective. I suppose one can debate what is subjective(lol). The rules of a given game are subject to change, but the laws of physics are static. Our understanding might change a great deal over time, but Newton did not invent a law getting snaked by an apple. He wrote...
  11. Truth in love

    Would you be a martyr?

    Death first. I don’t wish to die, but The Savior matters a whole lot more than my mortal life.
  12. Truth in love


    Police have been very become very political in many places. We also have the problem that very few legislators will actually repeal bad laws. They just let the police stop enforcing them. magic wand time I would end all city police forces and have everything run through the local sheriff’s...
  13. Truth in love

    Religious rules/guidelines

    “The harmful effects of really high fat diets only apply to vegans. They have no baring on others.” Eternal law is eternal law. While a chicken church has no business trying to force or punish a given person for violating one of their rules the core nature of eternal law means that it...
  14. Truth in love

    Prisoner rights

    Yes some times a child grows up in an ideal setting and harms others some suffer massive abuse and become very kinda on average though we get better results from more stable environments. So a child raised by loving commuted married parents in a community with high rates of stable families...
  15. Truth in love

    Is god evil

    There are some major fails.
  16. Truth in love

    Not a sin anymore???

    In short I’ve been totally blown away by how impactful stable families are. Nearly every major social Ill can be largely traced to broken families. Gods commandments are simple yet effective. I’m not surprised that many don’t believe the Bible. It does concern me that many claim to...
  17. Truth in love

    What religions have you belonged to in your life?

    I’ve been a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints for many years. I’ve spent several years talking to people of various beliefs. I find a lot of good in many different beliefs.
  18. Truth in love

    Where You Live, Which Economic Class Do You Fall Into?

    As best I can tell lower middle class. We have a comfortable home, AC, 2 working (though far from new cars), I’m able to take my wife on a date to a real (not fast food) restaurant several times a year. It’s a far cry from the gray houses on the hill and also I’ve got a lot more trim than...
  19. Truth in love

    Is god evil

    I think the unified message is best. John 10:34 Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods? Romans 8: 16 The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God: 17 And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ...
  20. Truth in love

    Is god evil

    The OT story is a bit vague, but the NT makes it clear that we are Gods children and can become like He is.