Why don't you read the Bible more carefully? And while you're at it, think about what it clearly says about Jesus returning to this world.
Jesus never promised to return to earth, not once in the New Testament. Jesus said His work was finished here and He was no more in the world. That means...
It says what it says and Christians just cannot accept what it says.
John 14:19 Yet a little while, and the world seeth me no more; but ye see me: because I live, ye shall live also.
John 16:10 Of righteousness, because I go to my Father, and ye see me no more.
John 17:4 I have glorified thee...
I think the promise Jesus made to come again and receive His followers to Himself was not only for the disciples He spoke to at that time, but to all believers since then. That is why we have the Bible, God’s Word preserved through the centuries. According to the scriptures, when Jesus comes to...
I know what tradition is. I also know what Baha'u'llah said about the traditions of the past.
“This is the Day when the loved ones of God should keep their eyes directed towards His Manifestation, and fasten them upon whatsoever that Manifestation may be pleased to reveal. Certain traditions...
That's right. And that's the belief expressed also in NT Bible and 2000 old years tradition. You can believe it or not but you can't say something else is tradition.
Acts 4:12
12 Salvation is found in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given to mankind by which we must be...
Jesus was going to heaven to prepare a place for His disciples.
How could Jesus come back to earth and take His disciples to heaven now? His disciples are no longer on earth.
John 14:2-3 In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place...
Given what Jesus said.....
John 14:19 Yet a little while, and the world seeth me no more; but ye see me: because I live, ye shall live also.
John 16:10 Of righteousness, because I go to my Father, and ye see me no more.
John17:11 And now I am no more in the world, but these are in the...
The important point to note, I think, is that Jesus is warning about anyone who “says” they are the Christ because when He, the real Jesus Christ, returns He will not need say anything because it will be completely obviously to the entire world that He has returned. I think this warning would...
If those words are not the true words of Jesus neither is anything else in the Bible. You can't have it both ways and neither can the Christians.
I don't care what other Baha'is are doing. I do not need permission to interpret the Bible.
Moreover, my interpretation is just s valid as anyone...
In your view and according to how you interpret the scriptures....
In my view and according to how I interpret the scriptures, if anyone returned claiming to be Jesus Christ, he would be a false Christ.
That is why Jesus said: Then if anyone says to you, ‘Look, here is the Christ!’ or ‘There!’...
Have you read TB's post 296? She has zero credibility to claim those verses in John are literally true and the exact words of Jesus. No other Baha'is here on the forum are using those verses. And, unless it is an official Baha'i interpretation, it means very little.
For me, the NT teaches that...
No more means no more, but Christians cannot face reality so they try to come up with an explanation for what Jesus said.
You are free to believe whatever you want to and you will. I am not going to argue with you.
Christians will continue to wait until hell freezes over for Jesus to return...
You can cherry-pick verses that you believe show that you are right, but I cam not going to bother reading them because I know that what I believe is true.
You are free to believe whatever you want to and you will. I am not going to argue with you.
Christians will continue to wait until hell...
Here is a commentary why this sounds like a contradiction but it's not:
John17:11
And now I am no more in the world
In the earth; which is no contradiction to his resurrection from the dead, and stay with his disciples for a while; nor to his return to judge the world at the last day; nor to...
Not exactly right. The Lord will go away (Hosea 5:15), in as "I will go away and return to my place until they (Judah and Ephraim) acknowledge their guilt.... Hosea 6:2," He will revive us (Judah and Ephraim) after two days (2000 years)... that we may live before him", as for the LORD, a day...
6 ... He will reign on David's throne and over his kingdom, establishing and upholding it with justice and righteousness from that time on and forever. The zeal of the LORD Almighty will accomplish this.
Baha'u'llah's geneology can be traced back, without equivocation, to Abraham and Keturah...
John 14:19 Yet a little while, and the world seeth me no more; but ye see me: because I live, ye shall live also.
John 16:10 Of righteousness, because I go to my Father, and ye see me no more.
John17:11 And now I am no more in the world, but these are in the world, and I come to thee. Holy...
You do not understand verb tenses!
Re John 14:19: "Yet a little while, and the world seeth me no more" means very soon many people will not see Jesus, but that does not mean that He won't return.
Re John 16:10 and John17:11: same thing, except it's present tense
If I say that I want no...
If the John who wrote the Book of Revelation is the same John who wrote the gospel, he would have known that Jesus as not coming back to earth, ever.
John 14:19 Yet a little while, and the world seeth me no more; but ye see me: because I live, ye shall live also.
John 16:10 Of righteousness...
You are correct. These particular verses about seeing the Son of man in the clouds are not about Baha'u'llah, they are about Jesus.
That is a valid perspective because the men who wrote Matthew and Mark probably believed that Jesus was coming back to earth.
However, that does not mean that...