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Search results for query: "John 1:2-3"

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  1. blü 2

    Matthew, Mark, Luke Vs the Gospel of John

    The gospel of John has gnostic qualities, some of which can be found in Paul. Gnosticism is from Greek culture, not Jewish as such, but Greek culture had been influential in Jewish culture since Alexander's conquest of the region some three hundred years earlier. Greek was also the language of...
  2. G

    A Gnostic account of the world (in brief)

    As a Gnostic with both Cainite and Mandaean influences, I reject Jesus as a false Prophet who had no real power, but I take your point.
  3. blü 2

    A Gnostic account of the world (in brief)

    You'll have noticed, of course, that the Jesus of Paul and the Jesus of John (unlike the Jesuses of Mark, Matthew or Luke) created the material universe (I Corinthians 8:6, John 1:2-3) and that for Paul and John God is an even more remote figure than in the synoptics, so that it's not only...
  4. Brian2

    To Die For The Sin of Mankind – what does that really mean ?

    It does not matter what other Abrahamic religions do. There was one Jewish Temple and that was the house of God according to God (1Chron 17:12,13) Adam was created. Jesus has always existed. (John 1:2,3 )
  5. Brian2

    Daniel 12:2

    You do not know that Jesus harmed anybody when He drove the sellers and money changers out of the Temple. You do not know that He was angry when He did that. If He was angry you seem to think that anger by itself is wrong. You seem to think that Jesus was not good, that He was a sinner and so...
  6. Sand Dancer

    Jesus is a Fictional Character

    Oh, thanks for the clarification. Very illuminating.
  7. blü 2

    Jesus is a Fictional Character

    Thanks. The Jesuses of Paul and of John are gnostic-flavored. Like the gnostic demiurge, each of them pre-existed with God in heaven, and each of them created the material universe (1 Corinthians 8:6, John 1:2-3). Thus, before Abraham was, the Jesuses of Paul and of John indeed were. This...
  8. sojourner

    Understanding John 1:1

    Problem is that John was written in Greek and predates its translations. Why would a translation inform the original? Second, if we take the context under consideration, it’s clearly implied that the God that’s being referred to is Almighty God. I’ve addressed this comprehensively in two...
  9. oldbadger

    Understanding John 1:1

    I read your entire post, thank you. So this religion was spun in to being many many decades after Jesus the peasant handworker had joined the Baptist's campaign........ and died. So the ordinary human can ignore all John's spin, who clearly never was there, never was the disciple John...
  10. 74x12

    Understanding John 1:1

    You can't understand John 1:1 without reference to Genesis 1. That's the whole reason for the similar language between Genesis 1:1 and John 1:1. "In the beginning" is the hint. Jesus is the Light of Genesis 1:3 which is not created by the way. Just shone in the darkness. Because everything...
  11. capumetu

    Understanding John 1:1

    Very good post sir, it is interesting to note that Acts 28:6 was written the same way and the versions that call the Word God all render an a there, indicating they deliberately altered Jn 1:1.
  12. BilliardsBall

    Understanding John 1:1

    The NWT MUST be an incorrect translation in John 1:1 due to seemingly countless verses in both testaments that demonstrate/state/prophesy or make an apologetic for JESUS IS GOD. The issue isn't linguistics as much as whether you believe the Bible is God's Word, and whether you will follow the...
  13. U

    Understanding John 1:1

    Yes, "IN" the beginning was the word ( aka pre-human heavenly Jesus ) I find No Scripture that says Jesus was "BEFORE" the beginning. However, I do find at Psalms 90:2 that God is from: everlasting. Everlasting as meaning "BEFORE" the beginning of anything else. So, only God was "BEFORE" the...
  14. blü 2

    Understanding John 1:1

    The Christology of the author of John, like the Christology of Paul, is flavored by Gnosticism. In Gnosticism God is pure and remote spirit, and as such would never stoop to bringing the material world into being. This job then falls to God's created companion in heaven, the demiurge...
  15. firedragon

    Understanding John 1:1

    Who included it in and who decided this is authentic is the issue to consider. People can build a lot of meanings on top of one another.
  16. Kenny

    Understanding John 1:1

    John 1:1 Commentaries: In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. John 1:1, Using the New World Translation to Refute JW Teaching
  17. Colt

    Understanding John 1:1

    So you can see in part why the Jews also rejected Jesus as the divine, preexistent Son of God who came down from heaven to reveal the Father to mankind in greater detail. They were offended by his claims about himself having heard him clearly in the language he spoke.
  18. F

    Understanding John 1:1

    Ἐν ἀρχῇ ἦν ὁ λόγος, καὶ ὁ λόγος ἦν πρὸς τὸν θεόν, καὶ θεὸς ἦν ὁ λόγος. En arche ēn ho Logos, kai ho Logos ēn pros ton Theon, kai Theos ēn o Logos. – John 1:1 (Greek text) In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was a god. – John 1:1 (NWT) In the beginning was...
  19. U

    The Trinity in the OT (my belief)

    This is how I understand it. I did one verse each but they all work in context and as a unit 1. God is the creator Genesis 1:1-25 (given) 2. He had oral dictations Deuteronomy 28:1 (Full OT) 3. The oral dictations/laws-the “Word” of god-of god and the dictations themselves are one (John 10:36)...
  20. U

    The Trinity in the OT (my belief)

    I want to take the time to write a full post and see if you understand where I'm coming from. Do you mind reading the whole thing before I take time to write it out?
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