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Search results for query: "Zechariah 13"

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    Understanding the holy scriptures is impossible unless God gives you the interpretation

    Right. I accept on faith scripture is inerrant. If you want to claim it's not prove it.
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    Understanding the holy scriptures is impossible unless God gives you the interpretation

    According to you, I have to prove my point, yet you do not have to prove your point. My point is proven with respect to the message of the devil/"enemy" being mixed with the message of the "son of man" in Matthew 13:24-30. The bad fruit of any house/church proves it is on the way to being...
  3. blü 2

    Jesus Failed Right?

    Your error, in my view, is a common Christian one, to think that the Tanakh refers at any point to Jesus. Jesus is not recognizable as a Jewish messiah,since he was neither a civil, military or religious leader of the Jewish people nor anointed by the priesthood, which as you know is what...
  4. Ebionite

    Jesus Failed Right?

    Your reference was about the other son of man. Awake, O sword, against my shepherd, and against the man [that is] my fellow, saith YHWH of armies: smite the shepherd, and the sheep shall be scattered: and I will turn mine hand upon the little ones. Zechariah 13:7 No, the assumption that he is...
  5. blü 2

    Jesus Failed Right?

    He's not talking about exile, as my other reference made plain ─ Mark 8:31 And he began to teach them that the Son of man must suffer many things, and be rejected by the elders and the chief priests and the scribes, and be killed, and after three days rise again. 32 And he said this plainly...
  6. Ebionite

    Jesus Failed Right?

    No, exile and death are different things. But the days will come, when the bridegroom shall be taken away from them, and then shall they fast in those days. Mark 2:20 Also, "son of man" is not an exclusive title. And he began to teach them, that the Son of man must suffer many things, and be...
  7. It Aint Necessarily So

    If Christ wasn't the messiah, what was he?

    I don't believe that. Why would I? The argument for resurrection is that some people say that some other people saw Jesus when he was supposedly dead, and that when a rock was rolled away, there was no body to be seen. There would need to be a suspension f the laws of nature to revivify a body...
  8. InvestigateTruth

    Why should a Christian even look into Islam as a Possible true Faith?

    "No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him." John 1:18 The Bible is clear. Jesus is the only Son of God. If it did not mean it, the Bible would not have said this. So, when the Quran says, God does not have a Son, it...
  9. Ebionite

    Why should a Christian even look into Islam as a Possible true Faith?

    For that logic to work Jesus would have to have been his own father, but according to the gospels the spirit alighted upon him like a dove. The resurrection of Lazaruas relates to Elohim, since I am is the name of Elohim: Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that...
  10. 3rdAngel

    WHERE IS THE SCRIPTURE THAT SAYS GOD'S 4th COMMANDMENT IS ABOLISHED?

    I see you have no scripture to support your views so you need to pretend now that the Apostle Peter did not write Peter? 2 PETER 3:15-17 15, And account that the long-suffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given to him has written to...
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    WHERE IS THE SCRIPTURE THAT SAYS GOD'S 4th COMMANDMENT IS ABOLISHED?

    Your problem is that the consensus among critical bible scholars is that Peter didn't write 2 Peter. The other point is that Peter is the "worthless shepherd" of Zechariah 11:17, who is also mentioned in Zechariah 13:7 per Matthew 26:31, as being among the sheep that "were scattered" when the...
  12. justaguy313

    Christianity vs Islam

    The Holy Bible mentions specifically Simon of Cyrene literally: A certain man from Cyrene, Simon, the father of Alexander and Rufus, was passing by on his way in from the country, and they forced him to carry the cross. They brought him to the place called Golgotha (which means “the place of...
  13. Ebionite

    Christianity vs Islam

    Problem is that the beliefs if the Second Treatise of the Great Seth are not consistent with Yeshua endorsing the prophets of YHWH, just as it was unjust for Simon of Cyrene to be crucified. The idea that there was someone else who suffered from the crucifixion is supported by the gospels...
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    Is it possible that Christianity is true, yet the Bible contains errors?

    Zechariah 11:8, " I annihilated the three shepherds" This would include Peter, Paul, and Judas Iscariot Matthew 26:31 refers to Zechariah 13:7, and specifically with respect to Peter's denial of "Christ" 3 times. (Mt 26:31-34) "Peter".... "before the cock crows you will deny me 3 times" As...
  15. Ebionite

    Is it possible that Christianity is true, yet the Bible contains errors?

    There's obviously no shepherd in that text. The actual reference to Judas relates to the phrase "smite the shepherd". Then saith Jesus unto them, All ye shall be offended because of me this night: for it is written, I will smite the shepherd, and the sheep of the flock shall be scattered...
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    Is it possible that Christianity is true, yet the Bible contains errors?

    I think it is possible he fell in such way that he hit the ground head first. For example it could be that he hanged himself on a hill, next to some kind of cliff, rope was cut and he rolled down the cliff. Other possibility is that headlong means in this case rashly. Interesting, I don't think...
  17. Ebionite

    Is it possible that Christianity is true, yet the Bible contains errors?

    He fell headlong. Do you propose that after the rope failed he managed to somersault so that he wasn't falling feet first? The answer to this conundrum can be found in the relevant prophecy. Then saith Jesus unto them, All ye shall be offended because of me this night: for it is written, I...
  18. Ebionite

    Mistaken Identity and Jesus - doesn't require a look-a-like

    There was understandably some confusion between Jesus and his twin (fellow from Zechariah 13:7). Matthew 26 31 Then saith Jesus unto them, All ye shall be offended because of me this night: for it is written, I will smite the shepherd, and the sheep of the flock shall be scattered abroad...
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    Can Any Christian Here Explain Why Gnosticism Is Wrong With Evidence ?

    Yes, knowledge does have value. Helping people understand that they are capable is step one. The sword is not the best answer. Be certain, if ww3 occurs, there will be a nasty discrimination for the religiously obtuse/ignorant.
  20. Ebionite

    Can Any Christian Here Explain Why Gnosticism Is Wrong With Evidence ?

    There's a lot valuabe material in the GoT. Even the introduction is useful, since it emphasises the twin. Matthew 26 31 Then saith Jesus unto them, All ye shall be offended because of me this night: for it is written, I will smite the shepherd, and the sheep of the flock shall be scattered...
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